Finally - Frank builds his Warwing

Started by Frank v B, March 01, 2020, 06:35:56 PM

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Frank v B

Ken.

I will take the Solarfilm trim.  Thanks for thinking of us.

Frank

"Never trade luck for skill"

Polecat

Hey Frank
I have a lot of stuff here and not going to use. Just happy to give it away.

Ken

Frank v B

Ken,

i am happy to take anything you want to get rid of that would fit into or onto an electric airplane.  I will spread the stuff around TEMAC in your name.
The rule is that if I get it free, I give it free.

Frank

ps: Get rid of Cory on your pylon team.  We will be happy to take him!  ;) ;D ;D
"Never trade luck for skill"

Frank v B

Finished the Warwing so I can maiden it on Sunday's "Let's kick winter to the curb" event.  ( See post   http://temac.ca/smf/index.php/topic,7391.0.html)

No paint yet because it will jinx the maiden.  If ugly planes last longer, this one will last forever.... or two flights in my hands. ;D


Frank
"Never trade luck for skill"

Frank v B

Am still scratching my head.

Did not fly the Warwing last Sunday because our Flying Insulation Specialist (Bruce) judged there was not enough thrust.

We tried several batteries and no improvement.

Went through several checks:
1) checked the throttle throw was max on the transmitter.  Yes it was.
2) checked the current motor/prop/esc combo draw- only 8 amps.  That's idle!
3) changed the ESC- still 8 amps.
4) changed the motor to a new G10- and increased the size of the prop from 10x7 to 11x7- only 12 amps.  High idle.
5) changed the prop from an 11x7 to a 12x6.  Draw increased to 16 amps.  Probably flyable.
6) a freshly charged 3S battery with combo #5.  The draw was still only 16 amps. ??? ???

OK, now I am open to advice from the Foam Gallery.  Where do I go next?  :P

Frank
"Never trade luck for skill"

bweaver

Re: OK, now I am open to advice from the Foam Gallery.  Where do I go next? 

Likely into the corn field... ::) ::) ::) ::) :P :P :P :P :-*

sihinch

I would calibrate the throttle throw for the ESC.  To do that, plug the battery in the ESC, move the throttle stick to max, turn on the transmitter, the ESC should beep (once or twice) then immediately lower the throttle to min (off) the ESC will beep some more, usually in 2 groups. Now unplug your ESC from the battery and you should be good to go.

bweaver

Quote from: sihinch on March 18, 2020, 07:57:52 AM
I would calibrate the throttle throw for the ESC.  To do that, plug the battery in the ESC, move the throttle stick to max, turn on the transmitter, the ESC should beep (once or twice) then immediately lower the throttle to min (off) the ESC will beep some more, usually in 2 groups. Now unplug your ESC from the battery and you should be good to go.

Thanks for that Simon.  While I have never experienced this kind of esc/motor performance problem I will keep your suggestion in mind for the future. (Old dogs can learn new tricks. The real trick is remembering the trick when necessary.) 

Better still, the suggested remedy will hopefully ensure that Frank's Warwing will be able to get into the sky and he won't have any more excuses. 

Frank v B

Bruce,

re: "Likely into the corn field... "     brilliant comeback!

re:"(Old dogs can learn new tricks. The real trick is remembering the trick when necessary.) "  A very revealing post.  You admit you're an "old dog", you do a "trick" and you can "remember".  Talk about a multi-tasker.  Wow, you really are good. ;)

Simon,

I will try it out of desperation.  Thanks.

Frank
"Never trade luck for skill"

Frank v B

The Warwing flew fine.

The draw is now 15 amps with a 12x6 prop.

Bought the paint this morning to mimic Simon's red and white post.

Frank

"Never trade luck for skill"

bweaver

Re: The Warwing flew fine.

Through no fault or credit to Frank, when it left my hand the warwing didn't need any trim.  It flew perfectly.  I wanted Frank to enjoy it for a while before I take mine up with his. Maybe next time?

For clarification please refer to screen capture below defining 'fine'.   :-*

Frank v B

Paint time.

Took off all the electronics, servos and radio equipment.

Painted the stripe area white first.  Then covered it in masking tape for the white stripe and painted everything red.  Will let it dry overnight.

Frank
"Never trade luck for skill"

bweaver

Quote from: Frank v B on March 20, 2020, 10:03:13 PM
Paint time.

Took off all the electronics, servos and radio equipment.

Painted the stripe area white first.  Then covered it in masking tape for the white stripe and painted everything red.  Will let it dry overnight.

Frank

You must have fallen in love with your new Warwing after flying it to be going to so much trouble...

Remember years ago, we had these books called coloring books.  They were intended to enhance youngsters coloring and painting skills so that they could stay within the lines. You could have tried to use this same principle and attempted to paint your Warwing without removing everything. 

What happened to your old saying?  It will look great at 50' while going 50?

Personally, I don't remember ever painting in this manner in order to obtain such a tiny white stripe. 

Were you using a roller @Frank v B  ???

Let me reminisce... I also remember a time when I used spell color, colour and neighbor, neighbour.  Seems like another time.

Of utmost importance to remember however is - 'IT'S JUST A WARWING'.  ;D

Frank v B

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Simon,

The Starsky and Hutch WarWing.

Bruce:

re: your comments.  I took all the stuff off so I could cover up all the mistakes.  You may recall I was going to try to put the prop on the old (cheap) motor to see if the draw is the same.  Once that was off.. I may as well remove the rest.

I didn't use a roller.  I have fine motor skills.

I painted it red so your blood would not show..... the same reason you should wear brown pants when we first meet in battle.!! ;D ;D

Frank
"Never trade luck for skill"

sihinch

That is so awesome! I wish I'd thought of doing one like that!  ;D

Well done frank.