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Title: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Frank v B on May 31, 2018, 11:01:13 PM
OK team TEMAC.  We need to wake up the troops in Orangeville for this weekend's races.

Ken was kind enough to warn us that our usual coffee shop is closed so we will meet at the Tim's at Highway 27 just south of Hiway 9.  It is on the west side of Hiway 27.

Google maps https://www.google.com/maps/place/17250+Hwy+27,+Schomberg,+ON+L0G+1T0/@44.0063655,-79.6899737,15.24z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x882ade9c268eda7b:0xa4d0dda1d71be2c4!8m2!3d44.0045756!4d-79.6781363

I will be there by about 8:15 and we should think about leaving for Orangeville at about 8:45 in our usual convoy.

Frank

Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: VadimKirillov on June 02, 2018, 08:59:29 PM
Hi Frank. Can you please post the location of the field in orangevile?
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: sihinch on June 02, 2018, 09:50:49 PM
Here you go Vadim, this is the best I can do....
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Polecat on June 02, 2018, 10:11:53 PM
Quote from: sihinch on June 02, 2018, 09:50:49 PM
Here you go Vadim, this is the best I can do....

Thanks for posting Simon.

Ken
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: VadimKirillov on June 02, 2018, 10:13:37 PM
Thank you Simon. 
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Frank v B on June 03, 2018, 05:39:34 PM
We went, we conquered!!!  Temac was represented by Michael, Glenn, Simon and yours truly.  Nine racers in total.

We still had some issues with gravity and terra very firma.  Great racing.  Good friends.  Great hospitality.  Great insults.

We each raced four races but not without issues. 
- In my first race, I nosed over and broke a prop.  Go fix.
- Simon went off course on take-off and planted his in the tall grass.  Ripped out the landing gear.
- Rick couldn't handle his bucking bronco when he accidentally took off at high rates and destroyed his racer. He went to his back-up.  I know
   how this feels.  Last year I destroyed my Pogo 1 the same way.
- Dave Ford took off and flipped his plane and broke a prop and dirtied the nose.
- Michael stripped his landing gear on landing and re-built it with Glenn's help during a break in the action.

These racers weigh 3 lbs, 48" span, run on a racing 25 (1250 KV), 4 cells, 800 watts! an 8x8 APC prop and all areas (rudder, fin, aileron, etc.) are marginal.  What is manageable at take-off becomes tough to handle at 150 kmh!!!  10 laps in less than 90 seconds.

Thanks to Ken and the boys for their hospitality and the people who showed up just to be course workers so we could have all the fun.

Frank
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Frank v B on June 03, 2018, 05:50:49 PM
Some more photos including the TEMAC team shot.
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Andy Hoffer on June 03, 2018, 06:30:01 PM
So let me see if I understand this:

4 races at 90 seconds each = 360 seconds = 6 minutes of flying time per person.

5 casualties in 36 races (9 racers x 4 races each) = 14% casualty rate (or a 1 in 7 chance), (maybe more for @Frank v B )!

Travel time to and from Orangeville, say from TEMAC field = approximately 1 hr each way = 2 hrs.

So the return on investment = 6 minutes flying per 120 minutes driving time = 5%, plus crashes, repairs and expletives.

I gotta get me one of these!! ;D

Andy
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: sihinch on June 03, 2018, 06:52:06 PM
It's actually more like 2hrs each way!  ;)

But it's worth it!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Michael on June 03, 2018, 07:29:09 PM
I finished all 4 races (I was by far the slowest racer), and a big thanks to Glenn and Frank who helped me make a repair between races.

Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Michael on June 03, 2018, 09:06:16 PM
Another photo from Simon.

We don't have the race results yet, but one of us will post them as soon as we get them.

Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Frank v B on June 03, 2018, 09:11:48 PM
Andy,

re: "So the return on investment = 6 minutes flying per 120 minutes driving time = 5%, plus crashes, repairs and expletives.

I gotta get me one of these!! ;D
"

Andy,

Two thoughts to put your comment in perspective:

1) Only you could get better value out of an EF-1 experience because of your lack of speed and flying the course so inaccurately.  You could get triple the value of that any of us got today. :)

2) - Summer Olympics- a guy runs the 100 meter race and does not make the cut at 7.5 seconds.  Travel time- days! Training time-years! return on investment- bragging rights that he was there even though he spent hundreds of thousands of dollars per second.  Only four of us can brag about our EF-1 accomplishments!  We got you beat. ;D

Your buddy,


Frank
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Polecat on June 03, 2018, 09:18:49 PM
Hi Guys
A great day of racing and fun times, thanks for coming up to Orangeville, you guys are all getting better at flying the course. I have been watching all the heats and the times are coming down.
I will post the race results tomorrow, going off to bed this old guys is pretty pooched.

Ken
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Michael on June 03, 2018, 09:19:53 PM
Actually, I was there today by the grace of Andy.

We both wanted to buy the plane I flew today, but Andy graciously let me buy it, as long as I promised that I would fly in the race.

Whatever my achievement was today, I share it with Andy!

Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Polecat on June 03, 2018, 09:29:26 PM
Andy needs a E F 1 airplane, he will liten up the races. I could do the racing matix so that Frank and Andy are racing a couple of round.


Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Frank v B on June 03, 2018, 11:22:30 PM
Ken,

re: "I could do the racing matix so that Frank and Andy are racing a couple of round."

Andy would really get value for money ($/seconds) out of this plane. :D

Frank
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Andy Hoffer on June 04, 2018, 12:47:04 AM
I think I would prefer FPV if I'm going to be flying at 120 knots!  I could even take @Frank v B for a low pass over the Amaranth field so he could choose his favourite planting spots!!

Andy  8)
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Polecat on June 04, 2018, 12:13:52 PM
Quote from: Polecat on June 03, 2018, 09:18:49 PM
Hi Guys
A great day of racing and fun times, thanks for coming up to Orangeville, you guys are all getting better at flying the course. I have been watching all the heats and the times are coming down.
I will post the race results tomorrow, going off to bed this old guys is pretty pooched.

Ken


E F 1 Race Results June 3 Orangeville

Cory Paine             16 Pts.        FT. 1:09
Glenn Nikolaiko      15                    1:32
Dave Ford              14                    1:20
Simon Hinchcliffe    14                    1:34
Michael Rogozinsky  14                   1:48
Ken Fluney              12                   1:21
Frank V                   10                   1:41
Rick Paine                 8                   1:16
Mike Baker                8                   1:22

As you can see everyone's times have come down from last years racing. This race we had a few mishaps Rick Paine lost a Dara { now has a replacement thanks to me}, Frank, Michael and Simon had a few issues, Dave Ford had a bad take off and crashed, but the only damage was to the spinner and prop, Mike Baker had a aileron servo gear go and had to with draw.
If anyone needs a E F 1 plane, I still have another Dara and a used Polecat. Also planning to bring in a new Outrageous ARF {all white covering}. I have a couple of E F 1 kits in stock, an Outrageous and a Wagner Solution, these would be a good winter build.
Our next two races are in Sept. 9 and 30, hope everyone has a great summer. Where are the Hazelton brothers???

Ken
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: bweaver on June 04, 2018, 01:08:24 PM
Great showing TEMAC racers!!!!!! 

How did @Frank v B move up to 3rd last?  :-*
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Michael on June 04, 2018, 01:09:52 PM
For the record, everyone listed below my name (in the above post) is a better and faster flyer than me.

The rules heavily penalize those that crash and don't have a back-up plane.

... but it just goes to show, you don't have to be that great to participate.

Thanks again to Corey for helping me in each race.

I had a great time!

Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: cpaine on June 04, 2018, 04:08:22 PM
It was a pretty good day! you guys are getting faster every time! Micheal went ahead and got his fastest time to date! Slick!
My dad had an oops in the his race with me, that sucked. bye bye Dara.
My new lil'Toni is singing!!!.....And i think i turned my fastest time with Simon calling for me?! thanks Simon!
Aaand Simon has also found the course, setting good times and getting wins! look out everyone!!

Thanks again all for a great race, and good times!
I'd like to thank my sponsors... my wife, and Beer...

Cheers
Cory

PS-there was a few cameras out there, i would like to see some more pics... I usually take a bunch but forgot. just the one of me afterwards with my Toni.
I would like to do a post on RCCanada.
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Frank v B on June 04, 2018, 09:07:26 PM
Bruce,

re:"How did @Frank v B move up to 3rd last?  :-*"

Sometimes I screw up and end up in a better place. ;)

Cory, notice no "still ugly" comment from Simon.  He would have to change it to "still fast" ;D

Frank

Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: sihinch on June 04, 2018, 09:09:57 PM
He's fast. But ugly!
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: cpaine on June 04, 2018, 10:25:13 PM
Quote from: sihinch on June 04, 2018, 09:09:57 PM
He's fast. But ugly!

I am half British.....
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: sihinch on June 04, 2018, 10:32:06 PM
Grrrrrr
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: cpaine on June 05, 2018, 12:50:59 PM
Haha nice hat!!
http://www.rccanada.ca/rccforum/showthread.php?t=565665
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Frank v B on June 05, 2018, 10:17:47 PM
Hey Cory,

re: Simon's  "He's fast. But ugly!"

You missed your chance to get back at Simon for his comment so I will do it on your behalf.

Simon: "He's slow... butt ugly!!" ;D

Frank

ps: Cory, stop being so darn polite. :D
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: cpaine on June 06, 2018, 09:35:33 AM
Geez, i thought my "I'm half British"  comment was pretty good! Austin powers and everything! .... I only have so many rounds in the chamber!
My other half is Italian... thats where the speed comes from!

On a racing note, I noticed there was a 3 way tie for 3rd?  thats cool! and Glen took 2nd. Congrats Glen!
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: sihinch on June 06, 2018, 09:59:13 AM
Next time the TEMAC Boys are coming in costume! Be warned.

Here is a photo of the full group.....
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Frank v B on June 06, 2018, 10:59:07 PM
Simon,

About the costume.

Glenn and I were commenting that next time we should show up as the contractor(s) from the YMCA Village People.  We have to wear the hard hats anyways. ;D ;D

Frank

I just saw the video.  Oops!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzNgM-n4DzE
Title: Re: Sun. June 3 Pylon races- Orangeville
Post by: Andy Hoffer on June 10, 2018, 02:04:53 AM
Quote from: sihinch on June 06, 2018, 09:59:13 AM
Next time the TEMAC Boys are coming in costume! Be warned.

Here is a photo of the full group.....

@sihinch

Repeat after me:

Fill flash!
Fill flash!
Fill flash!

Andy   8)