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Toronto Electric Model Aviation Club (TEMAC) => General Discussion => Topic started by: Oscar on October 15, 2020, 09:03:45 am

Title: New Spektrum Radio NX6 NX8 and NX10
Post by: Oscar on October 15, 2020, 09:03:45 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNCC7yGRQyM&feature=emb_title

Title: Re: New Spektrum Radio NX6 NX8 and NX10
Post by: Andy Hoffer on October 15, 2020, 09:58:53 am
I expect there will be a LOT of drooling going on at the field!  ;D

Thanks @Oscar !

Andy
Title: Re: New Spektrum Radio NX6 NX8 and NX10
Post by: VadimKirillov on October 15, 2020, 11:13:21 am
That is nice. Horizon does not sit on their butts during lockdown. lets see the prices..
Title: Re: New Spektrum Radio NX6 NX8 and NX10
Post by: Mike_Kilo on October 15, 2020, 04:18:31 pm
Damn are these new radios ugly. At least I think so. I think they are trying to make them look rugged, like their surface radios.

Glad to see USB charging/USB sim connection (albeit a soon obsolete micro USB connector), Hall Effect gimbals and folding antenna.
The magnetic charging adapter is cool, but it's just a third party product you can buy and add to any USB device. Perhaps they are using the old micro connector because they found a good bulk price on micro USB magnetic adapters.

The colour display is nice I guess, but the menus just look like a colourized version of the current B&W ones, not really taking advantage of having colour.  Also, you are still using a scroll wheel and buttons to navigate.

I think they should have left out the WIFI, and put a touchscreen in instead. The WIFI is gimmicky to me.  But hey, I like setting up my models from scratch in the radio, not downloading a setup and hoping it works for me. Also, how often do you update firmware really? Just use the SD card.

The serial output is also nice, but if I ever get TBS Crossfire or IRC Ghost, I'll buy a radio with a module bay like the Radiomaster TX16s. I don't like the idea of a module stuck to the back of my radio with velcro. (Not very modular.)

Plus the Radiomaster has all features I like (USB, Hall effect, folding antenna), as well as a touchscreen and openTX. (Also it isn't ugly ;D) (Also, also it uses modern USB C connectors  ;))

Good to see they are keeping at it, but I won't be upgrading my trusty DX9 anytime soon, especially since I recently dropped $70 on the wireless sim dongle (totally worth it though, your planes are wireless, shouldn't your sim be too?).
Title: Re: New Spektrum Radio NX6 NX8 and NX10
Post by: Oscar on October 15, 2020, 06:56:44 pm
For me, NX10 will be better choice.  However, I do have few concerns on the NX series


1) With WiFi, Color screen, how well the battery can hold.  My DX9 only charge once a week (usage: each day fly for approx 3 hours)
2) Volume - How loud and how well the speaker can produce the output
3) RF Performance - Will the new RF module play nicely with the big Microcell tower behind us.  Or those who fly indoors, will it cause any issue (sidenote: iX12 has issue for indoor flying)
4) I have few planes using DSM2 RX.  Will the new RF module backward compatible?
5) MIssing Slider in NX10.  This will be inconvenice.
6) Training pot - The NX series does not come with wired training module.  (Wireless only).  You have to pay for the wired training module. 


Hopefully HH will address those questions.


Title: Re: New Spektrum Radio NX6 NX8 and NX10
Post by: bfeist on October 16, 2020, 11:26:21 am
I just want to know why Spektrum is obsessed with the letter X.
Title: Re: New Spektrum Radio NX6 NX8 and NX10
Post by: Oscar on October 16, 2020, 12:07:19 pm
Its a 'nerd' thing.   ;D

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Title: Re: New Spektrum Radio NX6 NX8 and NX10
Post by: mawz on October 16, 2020, 02:14:51 pm
Damn are these new radios ugly. At least I think so. I think they are trying to make them look rugged, like their surface radios.

Glad to see USB charging/USB sim connection (albeit a soon obsolete micro USB connector), Hall Effect gimbals and folding antenna.
The magnetic charging adapter is cool, but it's just a third party product you can buy and add to any USB device. Perhaps they are using the old micro connector because they found a good bulk price on micro USB magnetic adapters.

The colour display is nice I guess, but the menus just look like a colourized version of the current B&W ones, not really taking advantage of having colour.  Also, you are still using a scroll wheel and buttons to navigate.

That's deliberate, these are the next-generation radio for the DX user, folks wanting a shinier UI already have the iX series while not changing what didn't need changing

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I think they should have left out the WIFI, and put a touchscreen in instead. The WIFI is gimmicky to me.  But hey, I like setting up my models from scratch in the radio, not downloading a setup and hoping it works for me. Also, how often do you update firmware really? Just use the SD card.

They already did that in the iX series. The NX series are very deliberately targeted at the users on a budget and/or who want a more traditional radio experience than the iX series provides.

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The serial output is also nice, but if I ever get TBS Crossfire or IRC Ghost, I'll buy a radio with a module bay like the Radiomaster TX16s. I don't like the idea of a module stuck to the back of my radio with velcro. (Not very modular.)

The radios feature a 4 screw mount to allow use of external modules with a secure mount. Brackets for JR style modules are available on Thingiverse as the mount is shared with the iX series. I'm thinking of doing one that will accept a JR FM module and features an antenna mount just so I can fly 72MHz alongside Frank and Andy ;-)  (Actually, might do that on my iX12 as well)

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Plus the Radiomaster has all features I like (USB, Hall effect, folding antenna), as well as a touchscreen and openTX. (Also it isn't ugly ;D) (Also, also it uses modern USB C connectors  ;))

The Spectrum radios have a much more robust folding antenna setup, the Radiomaster is using the much easier to break rubber ducky antennas. Plus when folded the Spektrum units are not exposed so less likely to break in the bag (which is where you're most likely to break things). Agreed on the USB connectors and I've already pointed that out to Spektrum's engineers (I'm friendly with Andy Kunz, the lead Airware developer).

Note the Spektrum units are ISED approved, unlike any of the MPM radios (while often ignored, FCC approval does not actually mean a radio is legal to use in Canada, Industry Canada wants its cut and while you can use FCC testing for approval, the paperwork has to be submitted to ISED and a fee paid). Main issue there is for Insurance, you're not likely to get dinged by TC for flying a FCC radio, but Insurance adjusters are out to deny claims and if they figure out your radio doesn't have all the correct paperwork approvals IC wants, they could use that to deny a claim. 

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Good to see they are keeping at it, but I won't be upgrading my trusty DX9 anytime soon, especially since I recently dropped $70 on the wireless sim dongle (totally worth it though, your planes are wireless, shouldn't your sim be too?).

It will be a while before there's capability on the new radios at the same level as the DX9 that drive an upgrade. The NX and iX series allow for future growth but only the iX20 really offers features that a DX radio can't do today, the DX series are largely tapped out in terms of ability to accept new feature adds.

Personally, there is an NX in my future, but it will be largely as a backup to my iX12.