Great News! TEMAC is open, but with new rules effective until further notice.
An email with the following text will be emailed to all members shortly, and you will need to reply that you agree with the rules, in order to fly at TEMAC. Of course, you must also have paid for your 2020 membership.
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TEMAC is OPEN!
After a number of steps, we have received formal permission to open the TEMAC field from the Stouffville Municipal Law Enforcement Officer - Corporate Services Department.
This email is being sent to current and past members of TEMAC. Please read everything, and then send a reply email with the words : "I AGREE" in order to fly at TEMAC, to:
[email protected]Only pilots who have paid for their 2020 TEMAC and MAAC memberships may fly at TEMAC. Payment can be made by Email Transfer to
[email protected]TEMAC 2020 Covid19 prevention Rules – in compliance with Public Authority guidelines – in effect immediately until further noticeAll formal club activities are cancelled until further notice. Solitary flying is allowed. No large crowds.
Do not come to the TEMAC field if you are sick, coughing, or sneezing. Do not come to the TEMAC field if you are at high risk of catching a virus, or if you are afraid of catching a virus.
Leave extra space between cars when parking.
The portable washroom is closed. The tables and chairs at the field may not be used. You may bring your own personal chairs and small tables from home, and then take them with you when you leave.
Maintain proper social distancing (at least 2 meters) from others. There is no flight instruction until further notice.
Wear a mask (mouth and nose covering), if you might come closer than 2 meters to another. If you can, wear a mask at all times. Wear gloves and/or use hand sanitizer. Please wash or wipe down any surfaces you may touch at TEMAC.
No visitors (non-members) may visit the field until further notice.
Signs indicating these rules will be posted.
Members who break rules may be subject to disciplinary action.
Do not leave any garbage (masks, gloves, anything) at TEMAC.
Problems, complaints or comments may be directed to our Vice President David Kates, or to me.
Please remember the polite and happy atmosphere we maintain at TEMAC. If someone breaks one of the above rules, accidently or intentionally, it does not give you license to yell or argue or fight.
Members must reply to this email, indicating that they will comply with these rules/guidelines in order to have flying privileges at TEMAC.
We still have to be very careful.
No funflies, no organized activities, no barbecues, no meetings, no shaking hands, no hugs, no kisses, etc.
;D
The following TEMAC members have paid their 2020 membership fees and have formally agreed by email to the new COVID19 rules and guidelines.
Adam M
Adam R
Alan L
Alex N
Alex S
Andy C
Andy H
Athol C
Bill Q
Brandon T
Bruno & Sofia M
Bruce W
BJ R
Carlos M
Craig C
David K
Don D
Eric A
Eric H
Felix C
Frank F
Frank VB
Gary C
Gerald D
Gerald P
George T
Gil E
Glenn N
Gray N
Greg C
Greg H
Guy OR
Hamid Z
Jake U
Jan H
Jeff F
Jim S
John A
John C
John J
John W
Joseph A
Karl M
KC Ch
Ken C
Ken R
Ken Y
Larry T
Lawrence C
Loi N
Mark S
Mark V
Michael B
Michael G
Michael R
Moshe A
Oscar M
Pedro M
Peter B
Peter P
Philip F
Richard B
Rob D
Roger M
Ron B
Simon C
Simon H
Stephane H
Vadim K
Vic W
William A
There are some members who have paid their dues but not yet agreed to the new rules, and there are some who have agreed to the new terms but have not yet paid their 2020 dues. Only those listed above can fly at TEMAC.
If there is a concern about the new rules, contact me.
[email protected]If there is a concern about 2020 membership fees, contact Athol.
[email protected]
Quote from: Michael on May 14, 2020, 04:51:14 PM
No funflies, no organized activities, no barbecues, no meetings, no shaking hands, no hugs, no kisses, etc. ;D
But,
@Michael can I still kiss :-* the ground after a good landing?!? ;)
I suppose so. ;D
My email was incorrect and has been updated. I do agree to all terms.
Greg, please send your correct email address to me and Athol.
[email protected][email protected]
Somebody paid their membership from Times Computer Services TCS Ltd.
Thank you very much, but you didn't include your name.
Who are you?
Please send info to
[email protected]
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND ....
If you go fly at TEMAC, please consider keeping your visit short, maybe an hour or so. If the attendance gets noticeably busy, we risk losing our permission to remain open.
Keeping your visit short will allow others to spend some time flying too.
If you arrive early and spend the whole day flying, and it's busy, under the current circumstances, I would personally consider it inconsiderate.
Dropped by the field this morning before a business appointment in the area (Woodbine and 16th).
Caution taped the Control Tower (porta-potti), the chairs and the tables. Please do not use them.
The yellow tape that had been put there was washed away (I left it in place).
Had one quick flight with the 1/2A Joy Stick. AAHHHHHH!!! glorious. No rain, just fog.
Photo of my plane taken by Sophia Cadez.
Frank
Thank you, Frank.
Great to hear the field is open again!
@Michael Question regarding the tables, if we were to bring our own disposable covers would that facilitate safe uses of the tables? I'm good either way, however am curious
Peter
Quote from: ppalumbo on May 15, 2020, 08:24:45 PM
Great to hear the field is open again! @Michael Question regarding the tables, if we were to bring our own disposable covers would that facilitate safe uses of the tables? I'm good either way, however am curious
Peter
The city official was so good to us, I do not want to ask for more. He specifically said not to use the tables, so please don't.
Fair enough Michael. Thanks for the quick reply and for working with the town on this.
Peter
Congrats on your 1/2A Joy Stick
@Frank v B ! It looks beautiful. It just needs a "caution tape" streamer off the tail, and maybe off the wing tips! 8)
Andy H
Andy,
You mean these streamers? (see photo)
Can I take them off your tricycle? ;D ;D
Frank
These streamers would be good for Bruce's Warwings. For your streamers, I definitely recommend "CAUTION" tape. :)
Andy
Hi Michael. I went and flew at the field but had not seen this notice. After I read it I realized that I had not broken any of the rules. I now formally comply that I have read the new rules and agree.
Thanks,
Ken
How did you know the field was open?
Michael, I would like you to rethink your answer on Peter's suggestion to have flyers be able to bring their own disposable table top covers. Seniors, specifically the Morning Crew, often have great difficulties bending over to work on planes. I personally flew yesterday morning at 8:00 and had this difficulty, aggravating my bad back. I did being my own small garden table that fit in my car but it was not satisfactory. I do not believe the Town would have any problem allowing this use of the tables knowing the circumstances. If you are uncomfortable contacting the Town regarding this, I would be happy to do this myself. As a senior with disabilities, perhaps my personal story would sway them,
especially if they are objecting.
I do not see my name on the list, did not receive the email and my membership is up to date. Please fix.
Gerald Danen
Jim,
I have thought about this (and other issues) to a good degree.
The law enforcement officer was very clear in that nobody can share anything: tables, chairs, etc.
He specifically said that if people have difficulty complying with the rules, they shouldn't come to the field.
I am being offered advice, opinions, and requests from several members to try to make exceptions, be more lenient, etc.
I have to make decisions for the benefit of the club and comply with the guidelines strongly suggested, and try to satisfy as many people as possible. For some, there may be no good solution, for example, beginner training pilots are not allowed to fly under the current situation.
The law enforcement officer gave us a fair degree of leeway on specific issues but warned us that if there is an appearance of contravention of our agreement, the police could still intervene and take measures that could affect our current open status.
I do not want to overwhelm nor exasperate the situation we have by having more people interact with the officer/municipality, claiming to represent the club, or specific aspects of the club.
We can't have a situation where some members can use tables and some can't.
We have a great club, and many very helpful members. I think a better solution would be to coordinate flying time with other members, who, wearing masks and gloves, can safely help set up your table with or for you.
As well, it is possible that the rule prohibiting the sharing of tables and chairs, could be relaxed in coming weeks.
Quote from: Gerald Danen on May 17, 2020, 08:33:23 AM
I do not see my name on the list, did not receive the email and my membership is up to date. Please fix.
Gerald Danen
If you did not receive the email, then it is likely we have an incorrect email address for you.
Please send me your email address.
[email protected]
Further to Michael's answer on the use of the tables:
I have flown twice: Friday and Saturday and offer this perspective.
Please accept the new normal: what we were used to and what would like to do is out the window. I have bad knees* and my wife suffers from asthma. My choice is to be very careful or not fly. It is binary and not negotiable.
Change the way you fly: I would love to fly my large Mustang, maiden my .40 size Knox re-build and fly the ballistic Rarebear but I bring small planes, have the batteries already charged and installed and the wing attached. I open the trunk, connect the battery go fly. Is it ideal? ... No. Does it beat staying at home? Absolutely.
Put yourself in the Compliance Officer's shoes: He is probably overworked and has had to handle all outdoor venues in the last two weeks (golf courses, horse venues, etc.). He was interested and concerned enough to come out and visit a club with 100 members. He voiced his opinions and concerns. We must implement them or shut down. Again, I see this as not negotiable by any club member.
I will enforce the rules as agreed to by the TEMAC executive and will report anyone who breaks them so the other 100 members can continue to enjoy a limited freedom.
Frank
*diagnosed with advanced osteoarthritis but declined to have them replaced.
I have no problem with the town official telling us not to use the tables (end of discussion). If he was aware of our suggestion to put disposable covers on the tables and he also said not to use the tables (end of discussion). I did not see that mentioned in the logs and that was my point. I also flew on Friday and observed the rules and I will continue to do so. I will work around the restrictions and hopefully get better at it.
Disposable covers do not prevent different people from touching the tables each time they use a cover.
There is no such thing as a universal disposable cover for the tables at TEMAC.
One person may use disposable covers, but another person may see that and use the table without covers.
One person might leave a disposable cover on the table, and someone else might touch it.
This is exactly the kind of discussion that I do not want to have with the law enforcement officer, on each issue and rule.
We were very lucky to get such a fast and lenient approval with the rules as they are.
I'm really sorry if the current status is inconvenient for you, but in other ways, it is inconvenient for each and every member, who all have different issues.
This was the best I (we) could do for now.
Handshakes etc are not allowed but we can still give hickeys can't we.
Ken,
re:"Handshakes etc are not allowed but we can still give hickeys can't we."
Great to see the old Ken is still alive and well. ;D
Frank
Michael, Your explanation makes sense. End of discussion.
The list on page 1 should be up-to-date.
If anyone has paid their dues and sent me confirmation of acceptance of the new covid19 safety rules, and your name is not on the list, please let me know.
[email protected]
I will no longer update the list on this forum of members who are allowed to fly at the field.
I will, however, maintain all emails from members who have agreed to follow the Covd-19 safety protocol rules, and will still require such emails from new joining or rejoining members.
Of course, new members are required to have their 'WINGS' (confirmed flying ability status), so please contact Frank, our Chief Flight instructor who will either meet with you, or designate another instructor to meet with you.
Flight instruction is still officially not operating, but Frank is willing to explore ways to help.
Michael Rogozinsky
TEMAC President
contact Frank at:
[email protected]