Guys,
Here's sequence from 2009, explained. Let's use this as our competition sequence. In subsequent posts we discuss each element one by one.
http://www.peneloperc.com/files/Basic_guide_2009.pdf (http://www.peneloperc.com/files/Basic_guide_2009.pdf)
Here's where I got it from. There's some great tips on how to set up your airplane and the basic competition rules.
http://www.peneloperc.com/index.php?option=com_weblinks&catid=13&Itemid=28 (http://www.peneloperc.com/index.php?option=com_weblinks&catid=13&Itemid=28)
I'm going to try and get out the the field this week on Tuesday evening to practice this. Feel free to join me.
Mike
Quote from: thehaze on August 05, 2012, 09:56:19 PM
Guys,
Here's sequence from 2009, explained. Let's use this as our competition sequence. In subsequent posts we discuss each element one by one.
http://www.peneloperc.com/files/Basic_guide_2009.pdf (http://www.peneloperc.com/files/Basic_guide_2009.pdf)
Here's where I got it from. There's some great tips on how to set up your airplane and the basic competition rules.
http://www.peneloperc.com/index.php?option=com_weblinks&catid=13&Itemid=28 (http://www.peneloperc.com/index.php?option=com_weblinks&catid=13&Itemid=28)
I'm going to try and get out the the field this week on Tuesday evening to practice this. Feel free to join me.
Mike
I think I need help just understanding the diagram but I really want to give it a try.
there's a guide to understanding the diagram on the second link.
either way, I'm working on something and will post soon.
Here's what the sequence should look like.
IMAC Basic 2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quRhGEeFdPs#)
Piece of cake.... Right? ;D
That video illustrates to me that it's less dramatic and more precise that I was picturing. Looks attainable with some practice.
If I can be of any help let me know.
Thanks Dave,
Perhaps you could come out to one of our practices and give us some advice on airplane setup and flying technique.
Is there any advice you can give us or can you point us to some resources that you think would help the novice pilot learn aerobatics?
Quote from: thehaze on August 09, 2012, 07:36:21 PM
Thanks Dave,
Perhaps you could come out to one of our practices and give us some advice on airplane setup and flying technique.
Is there any advice you can give us or can you point us to some resources that you think would help the novice pilot learn aerobatics?
Let me know when the practice night is and I will try to make it out.
Lots of info on the IMAC and Scale Aerobatics Canada websites.
http://www.mini-iac.com/ (http://www.mini-iac.com/)
http://www.peneloperc.com/ (http://www.peneloperc.com/)
This is a "must read" on airplane setup.
http://www.btinternet.com/~b.colclough/PGoldsmithTrimming-1.pdf (http://www.btinternet.com/~b.colclough/PGoldsmithTrimming-1.pdf)
"like" thanks Dave for offering your help
I have been going over the routine in my head but just cant remember or visualize it to memory.. Im blaming the 80's. or was it the 90's ? I forget!
My solution was to build a stick plane and try using that to go through the routine! Oddly enough it seems to work a little as i can get through it with less stumbles.
Can I just use the stick plane in contests as its easy to keep the wings level and can do any manouver my fingers can dream up!
Oh and I will work on the sounds I make when im flying it!
once the glue is totaly dry i will do some markers
Great idea to use a small stick plane. I was going to try an RC simulator but I find them unrealistically disorienting.
Ben
The stick plane is a great aid for learning a new routine. It helps with visualizing unknown routines and where you want to place each maneuver. The sim is great also, once you get used to it. It can really help learning some of the more difficult maneuvers like rolling circles and 8 point rolls. Most people will look at the basic routine and say it's easy, I can do this or I can do that but the real difficulty is stringing 10 maneuvers back to back where the maneuver before sets up the maneuver that follows. If you get out of shape it can really start to bugger things up. The sim is great at teaching you to fly from one maneuver to the next. Increasing the field of view and flying on the deck will help you keep orientation as well as get you comfortable flying close to the ground which always looks good in a freestyle routine. Adding the smoke to the sim also helps with orientation.
Keep in mind that you will have a caller who will help you to fly through the routine. A good caller can make all the difference especially in the unknowns. there are no unknowns in basic but you will encounter them should you wish to continue to higher classes. It also really helps to learn to read aresti for learning a new sequence or for calling. It's easier to look at the diagram than it is to read a long written description of a maneuver. It takes a little time to learn it but it's one of those things you can pick up as you go. Start by just learning to read the 10 you need for the basic sequence.
learn aresti here:
http://www.fightercombat.com/wp-content/uploads/aresti_made_simple_20051.pdf (http://www.fightercombat.com/wp-content/uploads/aresti_made_simple_20051.pdf)
good stuff!
now i just need..
1. the rain to stop
2. free time to practice
3. skill
I'm optimistic about the first two.
If the first two happen the third will follow. I guaranty this will make you a better pilot. The best way to become a better pilot is to stop flying around in circles and just practice something, anything each time you go out to fly. It can be as simple as just trying to fly a perfectly straight and level horizontal pass or vertical up line.
I believe that's called flying with purpose.
I beginning to see a pattern that exists in this hobby for most pilots..
1. Training. (I just want to fly something and be able to bring it home in one piece)
2. Just got my wings (I want a warbird)
3. Intermediate, who thinks he's an expert (I want to go stupid fast)
4. Maturing (I need to bring some order to this chaos)
I'm not sure about steps 5 and beyond but flying IMAC sequences seems, for me anyway, a doorway to a more satisfying time at the field. For some this might be flying scale planes, or improving their building skills but I think most people get there.
I agree that it promises to be a new enjoyable challenge that will take a long time to take hold (in me at least).
I like your list of stages. I spent about 7 years at stages 1 & 2 just happy flying more and more confidently, doing silly things like flying an entire flight inverted, how many loops can I do, etc. I also stayed at stage 1 for even longer with helis. Stage 3 has lasted another 5 years after the first 7 for me but I'd say it isn't just speed, it's exploring all aspects of the hobby; soaring, pylon, composite FAI, scale, floats, etc. Checking it all out but not settling on anything. I dabbled in step 4 a bit with a brio but ultimately I thought it was boring. In hindsight I think I found it boring because it wasn't a challenging plane to fly--it's right in the middle of my stage 3 venn diagram--and I wasn't challenging myself to do the hard work of learning something like IMAC with it. My Revolver 70 is essentially an enormous brio. I'll keep it challenging this time by taking on my fingers and brain more than the plane, unlearning bad habits, putting the sim training time in, putting the field training time in, and hopefully coming out a better pilot for it.
Ben
Quote from: thehaze on August 11, 2012, 08:13:09 PM
I believe that's called flying with purpose.
I beginning to see a pattern that exists in this hobby for most pilots..
1. Training. (I just want to fly something and be able to bring it home in one piece)
2. Just got my wings (I want a warbird)
3. Intermediate, who thinks he's an expert (I want to go stupid fast)
4. Maturing (I need to bring some order to this chaos)
I'm not sure about steps 5 and beyond but flying IMAC sequences seems, for me anyway, a doorway to a more satisfying time at the field. For some this might be flying scale planes, or improving their building skills but I think most people get there.
I have been flying for a long time and still enjoy seeing different types of flying and different types of aircraft. I love the challenge of learning to fly different aircraft properly. This new challenge is somthing I've wanted to pursue fora long time.
I have been practicing the first 4 moves on the sim...Took a while for me to get the 61" edge tamed down enough so that I could fly it...But I have them pretty good...Need to keep the plane on the same imaginary line, but it is hard with the field of view.
My HK order is in, and once I test the new ESC for the syncro, I will start testing the sport wing on the sync and see how these moves work in real life.
steve
Sounds like a good plan