Frank V has advised me that the clementines have started to arrive.
Please note that each purchase of specially selected imported clementines comes with 2 Warwing motor mounts and reinforcing kits. Believe it...
If you are a shrewd shopper (cheap) you can even ask the grocer for the box(s) without buying the clementines. (Many customers fail to appreciate the value of the clementine container, preferring to take their clementines home in a bag as opposed to the box.)
So here's the thing... Help me by collecting your own clementine motor mount and reinforcing kits. Bring them to tomorrow night's build session or next months pilots meeting. Give them to me and the magic will begin. If you can't do this, don't worry.
I hereby notify those who are interested, that I am taking orders now for the blue foam Warwing Kits, similar to those offered last year, but with some enhancements.
Kits will cost $10 each. (Maximum of two kits per person) They will be delivered only to TEMAC members at the January build meeting. That's when I will recover my costs and everyone can start building their Warwing(s) that evening and completing them at the following February build meeting. (More details to come)
In order to qualify, post your desired participation by replying to this topic. (Do you want 1 or 2 kits)
Thank you to those members of TEMAC who sacrificed participated last year. Especially to those who built them and challenged myself and others to the fun of flying combat.
New Targets desired this coming 2018. ;)
I'm in
2 kits for me please - Bruce!
I need revenge.
I'd like one Bruce. I have a box of clementines in the fridge just now, I will bring it over when it is empty.
Simon, you must understand, I am the only one with 'Revenge' and it has your name on it....! >:( ;D >:( ;D >:( ;D
Bruce,
I now have 3 clementine boxes. Will bring them to the build class.
Bruce, did you notice Simon's "2 kits for me please - Bruce!". I guess he wants to have 2 more fights flights with you. ;D
Surely Piker can use a kit but please write on the invoice "Insulation kit" so he can get it past Tara and write it off as well. :D
I have a kit and will bring it to the January build class so the master can show me how to build it.
Frank
It looked like too much fun this year.
Please add 1 kit for me, Bruce.
Graham
Frank Re - "Surely Piker can use a kit but please write on the invoice "Insulation kit" so he can get it past Tara and write it off as well".
You are getting older than I thought and your memory is fading. Piker already has two partially constructed kits. He just needs Tara to allow him the time to finish his work room and get back to them. Maybe he will bring them to the January February build evenings and finish them then.
Graham Re - "Please add 1 kit for me,"
As a newbie are you sure you don't want two?
Adam Re - "I'm in"
How far "in" are you?
Rob (Octagon) You are a bugger for punishment aren't you?
That's right! I still have two War Wing "building projects" from last year. I'll bringem' in in January.
I'm in for 1 Bruce.
QuoteGraham Re - "Please add 1 kit for me,"
As a newbie are you sure you don't want two?
Thanks for the offer, Bruce. But I find I can only manage 1 plane at a time. :)
Graham
I still have two from the last year. So I am good. Unless you guys take me out again. Lol, actually. Maybe I should order two. They are fun to build. Please!
Last call for orders of the Warwing kit (December 10/17)
If you or any of your TEMAC friends require one or two kits, you must order now. (Tell your TREMAC friends if they aren't aware of the deadline.)
This year's Warwing Kits are significantly enhanced in order to facilitate ease of the aircraft's construction. There should be no excuses for failure to complete the Warwing's construction during the January and February build classes.
For example, the enhanced kit includes:
- three 1/2 inch blue foam board fuselage and wing pieces (cut and ready for gluing together)
- the wing is prefabricated (one piece) and reinforced with fibreglass tape as necessary
- elevons are pre-installed with double sided taped hinges
- a 2 inch by 2 inch 1/8 quality plywood motor mount
- sufficient velcro for securing your battery to the aircraft
- plywood pieces for servo screw mounts (should you desire this method of securing servos)
- plywood control horns for elevons
- zip ties for securing your ESC and combat ribbon
- fuselage reinforcing plywood (Moroccan quality only)
- 4 pieces of triangular stock for firewall mounting/securing to aircraft (Moroccan quality only)
PLEASE NOTE: Frank v B. has kindly offered to provide a number of servos for those people who may not have their own. (Frank will have more details later)
To complete the Warwing you will require:
• 5 minute or 15-minute epoxy, (if 15 minute epoxy is selected, also bring your patience) – also bring paraphernalia for mixing and applying epoxy (waxed paper or something similar to prevent glue getting on tables)
• hobby knife for fine trimming of foam
• electric motor and ESC, mounting screws, nuts and bolts, blind nuts – your choice,
(examples of electric motor include - Rimfire .10, Turnigy G10, alternatively any brushless motor and ESC from a foamy aircraft, such as a Parkzone, Eflite, Durafly, FMS, or similar 1100 to 1200 mm wingspan aircraft)
• 2 servos and mounting screws or alternatively glue the servos to the wing if preferred
• 2 pushrods and linkages for servo to elevon connections.
• receiver and 2 sided tape for securing same
• flight battery is necessary for finding balance point and battery placement (typically 3 cell 1800 to 2200 mah is used)
• you also may require servo extensions, but they aren't necessary until making the plane ready to fly.
HI Bruce
I almost forgot to put my order in
I need to replace on of my wings,
so I'll take one please
This war wing stuff is so much fun....
Hello Bruce,
Please put me down for two.
Thanks
Glenn
I have 8 standard size servos to donate to the Warwing build class. Bruce and I will decide at the build class who is going to benefit from the donation. Rest assured it will depend on how long you have been in this hobby (in this incarnation). Guys like Graham, Richard and BJ are at the head of the list. For guys like Bruce, Glenn and me, standard servos are the equivalent to a closet full of wire coat hangers. It seems like we started out with just two of them. ;D
Frank
Please one for me.
I'll take one as well please.
Thanks!
Hi hope we are not too late! We are done with Robotics for the year so now can focus on more important things like building warnings :-)
I think the boys both want to build one, there is a small chance I would like to build one too - if there are enough to go around! Or maybe I'll just help Alex. So at least 2 kits for the Elbaz family.
Thank you for organizing this, we are looking forward to participating in the wreckage or at least feeding the corn monster at the field next year!
Tory, Ethan, and Alex.
Warwing Kit ordering has now CLOSED!
Everyone's orders have been accounted for.
Tory, Ethan's Warwing kit is free as promised last year. (He still has to get his wings though.)
Now off to LOWES>>>>>>>> ;D
Opps. can you order one for me. Tuck
You just caught me in time Tuck.
Ethan and Tory,
re: "Tory, Ethan's Warwing kit is free as promised last year. (He still has to get his wings though.)"
I will donate 2 standard size servos and a 25 amp speed controller from the Bert Dunk collection.
Frank
Just in case anyone was wandering how the project is coming along?
Wow, you have been busy. Looks like the pictures that Seagull model company posts on Facebook!
Bruce,
At one beer per plane..... :D
Frank
OK Bruce
That's awesome.... :)
you must have a system.... ::) ..... right???
Looks so good... :o
the build class is so much fun cant wait... ;D
Yes BJ I have a system. (NO FRANK IT DOES NOT INCLUDE BEER - NOT MY FAVORITE WINTER BEVERIDGE)
My system includes motivation. For example, I am motivated this year to make the build even easier than last years build session. Watching participants last year was painful. For the record, last year's build prize goes to Rob Dickinson for having his Warwing built and also being able to leave early because he had another commitment. All this was done while others where scratching their heads and other parts...
Trust me... this years build is going to be significantly easier (any ******* can do it) and could be finished in one evening build session or two build sessions at the most.
All the kits are finished and ready to go.
Here is what we have to do for and at the January build session.
To complete the Warwing you will require:
•Bring your transmitter and a 1800 – 2200 3 cell battery for testing.
•Bring 3 or 4 clamps for clamping plywood to fuselage.
•Bring 5 minute or 15-minute epoxy, (if 15 minute epoxy is selected, also bring your patience) –
•Bring paraphernalia for mixing and applying epoxy (Also bring waxed paper or something similar to prevent glue getting on tables)
•Bring a knife suitable for cutting out servo holes in wing and trimming foam.
• Bring electric motor and ESC, mounting screws, nuts and bolts, blind nuts – your choice, (examples of a suitable electric motor include - Rimfire .10, Turnigy G10, alternatively any brushless motor and ESC from a foamy aircraft, such as a Parkzone, Eflite, Durafly, FMS, or similar 1100 to 1200 mm wingspan aircraft)
•Bring 2 servos and mounting screws or alternative glue for securing servos to wing.
•Bring 2 pushrods and linkages for servo to elevon connections. (2 plywood control horns are provided as part of kit)
•Bring a receiver and 2 sided tape for securing same
•A battery is necessary for finding balance point and battery placement (typically 3 cell 1800 to 2200 mah is used)
•You may also require servo wire extensions, but they aren't necessary until making the Warwing ready to fly.
Building Instructions
1. Protect the table you are working on from exposure to epoxy, by using waxed paper, newspaper etc. at wing hole locations etc.
2. Test fit the upper fuselage to wing. Ensure the fuselage fits flat on the wing. Mix epoxy and secure the fuselage to the wing., Let cure/dry.
3. Epoxy the plywood reinforcing to one side of the fuselage. Secure with clamps. Let cure/dry
4. Epoxy 2 pieces of triangular stock at front of fuselage. The black ink mark on the triangular pieces faces forward. The ends without ink marks face the rear of the fuselage.
5. Cut/slice elevons for inserting control horns. Epoxy the control horns with the pushrod hole situated over the hinge line.
6. Mark and cut out the servo locations in the wing for servo installations.
7. Some may wish to use the plywood pieces for mounting the servos with screws. In this instance epoxy the plywood mounts.
8. Do not permanently install the servos YET.
9. Epoxy the bottom fuselage skid to the underside of the wing. Ensure it is straight and in line with the top fuselage.
10. Epoxy the two triangular motor mount pieces to the bottom wing and fuselage skid. The black ink mark on the triangular pieces faces forward. Let cure/dry.
11. Epoxy the plywood motor mount to the triangular stock and foam. Let cure/dry.
12. Install motor and ESC.
13. Temporarily place receiver and connect ESC and servos. Test location of battery to ensure the plane balances 16 inches from the trailing REAR edge of the wing.
14. Once the locations of the electronics have been determined, install Velcro to secure battery. Permanently install receiver with double sided tape.
15. Connect pushrods to the temporarily installed servos. Test elevons for functionality before permanently installing servos. Once elevons are working correctly permanently install the servos.
16. Paint the Warwing to suit your tastes. (Large colourful target rings are suitable and I find them desirable.)
17. Install a zip tie at rear of fuselage for ribbon attachment.
GET READY TO BUILD A WARWING
Hey Andy,
re: Bruce's "(any ******* can do it)"
Bruce says that even you can do it.! :D
Frank
Frank, as they say- "Those that can, do. Those that can't..... "
By the way, how long has it taken you to build a Warwing. I have heard rumors you have been stumped with a few of the construction techniques required to complete it. Bring it out to the next build session and you will get some help to finish it. :-*
Bruce:
re: "....you will get some help to finish it."
The problem is not "finishing". The problem is "starting". I can't finish what I have not started.
Every journey starts with a single step. Have not made that first step yet. ;D
Now Andy will pipe up and say something like: re: "First Step"- one foot in front of the other you idiot" ;)
Frank
ps: Bruce... the original quote by George Bernard Shaw was "He who can, does. He who can't, teaches" Thanks Teach! :D
Quote from: Frank v B on December 20, 2017, 03:58:39 PM
Bruce:
re: "....you will get some help to finish it."
The problem is not "finishing". The problem is "starting". I can't finish what I have not started.
Every journey starts with a single step. Have not made that first step yet. ;D
Now Andy will pipe up and say something like: re: "First Step"- one foot in front of the other you idiot" ;)
Frank
ps: Bruce... the original quote by George Bernard Shaw was "He who can, does. He who can't, teaches" Thanks Teach! :D
I would never call Frank an idiot. Other things maybe, but never an idiot! 8)
Andy
Quote from: Frank v B on December 18, 2017, 08:22:33 PM
Hey Andy,
re: Bruce's "(any ******* can do it)"
Bruce says that even you can do it.! :D
Frank
Frankie, Frankie, Frankie ...
"Andy" has only 4 letters; ******* has 7. Clearly Bruce is talking about someone else, perhaps "Frank VB, which has 7. 8)
Andy
Quote from: bweaver on December 20, 2017, 09:00:03 AM
Frank, as they say- "Those that can, do. Those that can't..... "
Clearly I was quoting 'they' - Who is George Bernard Shaw and what does he have to do with the price of soda?
(EDIT ADD) Come to think of it now, George was taking it too personally while 'they' was more of a generic response.
JUST A REMINDER FOR THOSE PARTICIPATING IN THE WARWING BUILD ON JANUARY 24TH
Here is what we have to do for and at the January build session.
To complete the Warwing you will require:
•Bring your transmitter and a 1800 – 2200 3 cell battery for testing.
•Bring 3 or 4 clamps for clamping plywood to fuselage.
•Bring 5 minute or 15-minute epoxy, (if 15 minute epoxy is selected, also bring your patience) –
•Bring paraphernalia for mixing and applying epoxy (Also bring waxed paper or something similar to prevent glue getting on tables)
•Bring a knife suitable for cutting out servo holes in wing and trimming foam.
• Bring electric motor and ESC, mounting screws, nuts and bolts, blind nuts – your choice, (examples of a suitable electric motor include - Rimfire .10, Turnigy G10, alternatively any brushless motor and ESC from a foamy aircraft, such as a Parkzone, Eflite, Durafly, FMS, or similar 1100 to 1200 mm wingspan aircraft)
•Bring 2 servos and mounting screws or alternative glue for securing servos to wing.
•Bring 2 pushrods and linkages for servo to elevon connections. (2 plywood control horns are provided as part of kit)
•Bring a receiver and 2 sided tape for securing same
•A battery is necessary for finding balance point and battery placement (typically 3 cell 1800 to 2200 mah is used)
•You may also require servo wire extensions, but they aren't necessary until making the Warwing ready to fly.
Building Instructions
1. Protect the table you are working on from exposure to epoxy, by using waxed paper, newspaper etc. at wing hole locations etc.
2. Test fit the upper fuselage to wing. Ensure the fuselage fits flat on the wing. Mix epoxy and secure the fuselage to the wing., Let cure/dry.
3. Epoxy the plywood reinforcing to one side of the fuselage. Secure with clamps. Let cure/dry
4. Epoxy 2 pieces of triangular stock at front of fuselage. The black ink mark on the triangular pieces faces forward. The ends without ink marks face the rear of the fuselage.
5. Cut/slice elevons for inserting control horns. Epoxy the control horns with the pushrod hole situated over the hinge line.
6. Mark and cut out the servo locations in the wing for servo installations.
7. Some may wish to use the plywood pieces for mounting the servos with screws. In this instance epoxy the plywood mounts.
8. Do not permanently install the servos YET.
9. Epoxy the bottom fuselage skid to the underside of the wing. Ensure it is straight and in line with the top fuselage.
10. Epoxy the two triangular motor mount pieces to the bottom wing and fuselage skid. The black ink mark on the triangular pieces faces forward. Let cure/dry.
11. Epoxy the plywood motor mount to the triangular stock and foam. Let cure/dry.
12. Install motor and ESC.
13. Temporarily place receiver and connect ESC and servos. Test location of battery to ensure the plane balances 16 inches from the trailing REAR edge of the wing.
14. Once the locations of the electronics have been determined, install Velcro to secure battery. Permanently install receiver with double sided tape.
15. Connect pushrods to the temporarily installed servos. Test elevons for functionality before permanently installing servos. Once elevons are working correctly permanently install the servos.
16. Paint the Warwing to suit your tastes. (Large colourful target rings are suitable and I find them desirable.)
17. Install a zip tie at rear of fuselage for ribbon attachment.
GET READY TO BUILD A WARWING
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Hey Bruce
Wow, Thank You for all the work that you did to make this class go so amassing.
Bruce you took out the intimidating factors of the build.
The kits that you made up went together so easily. Almost by them self's
The instructions were easy to follow. The parts list well thought out.
The room had the smell of 5 min. epoxy wafting, laughter could be heard.
Smiles could be seen all over.
It was a great time.
Thanks again Bruce
you so out did your self.
P.S. For those members that don't have one of these easy flying machines you need one in your hanger, check out Bruce's plane with floats.... it still flies :o
Quote from: BJROB on January 25, 2018, 07:41:24 AM
P.S. For those members that don't have one of these easy flying machines you need one in your hanger, check out Bruce's plane with floats.... it still flies :o
Just know that it has a propensity to fly inverted with floats!! 8)
Andy
Cool! I look forward to seeing how it works from water. As you say, Bruce, should be fine.
And the whole thing will float, with or without the floats!! 8)
Andy