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Toronto Electric Model Aviation Club (TEMAC) => Building / Construction => Topic started by: Michael on February 24, 2018, 07:03:33 PM

Title: A new old model
Post by: Michael on February 24, 2018, 07:03:33 PM
I picked up a terrific little ARF from A&J Hobby the other day.

It's a one-meter wing span foam model with some parts, but actually quite a lot of construction and conversion required.

The kit is nearly 20 years old, and was designed for a speed 480 brushed motor and 8 nicad batteries.

Can anyone guess the model? (It's a scale model.)

Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Frank v B on February 24, 2018, 08:26:09 PM
Guess: Miles Magister?
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on February 24, 2018, 09:45:57 PM
Similar style and vintage.
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on February 24, 2018, 09:50:03 PM
Servos and wood structure in fuselage; a quick simple assemble, and 'scarf-joint' spar.
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Frank v B on February 24, 2018, 11:39:22 PM
Next two guesses:
- Chilton D.W. 1A
- Klemm L35
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Andy Hoffer on February 24, 2018, 11:41:45 PM
How is the condition of the foam after 20 years in the box?

Andy
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Frank v B on February 25, 2018, 10:20:17 AM
Michael,

Photo 4 of the wing is making Piker nostalgic.  The same spar design as the Duck-E. :D

Frank
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: piker on February 25, 2018, 10:33:48 AM
Hmmmm.... I don't recognize it.  One of the Gee Bee models?

Hey Frank!  You're right.  Good recollection of the ill-fated Duck-E.  A very different time in this hobby of ours.  I think I have a NIB in the rafters... you may see a Duck-E fly again one day.
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: piker on February 25, 2018, 10:34:38 AM
Gee Bee Model D?  I hope so as THAT is a beautiful plane!

Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Frank v B on February 25, 2018, 12:04:58 PM
Piker,

re: "Good recollection of the ill-fated Duck-E".

Don't be so hard on yourself.  It flew, it was cheap and the winning element was early e-flyers like you, Glenn, Michael, John and Marc were always trying to find ways to get new people involved in e-flying.  You were preaching the gospel of E and many people like me benefitted from your dedication.... 20 or so years ago.  Yes dammit,  that was a compliment!   Savour it. ;) ;)  You have the rest of the day off.... provided the roof is on the house. 8)

Frank
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Ededge2002 on February 25, 2018, 12:54:35 PM
Looks like a nice and light hybrid design Michael!  Ive found the older models converted from round cells fly very well with the diet that modern equipment allows.

Good luck with your project!

Ed
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on February 25, 2018, 01:52:31 PM
Quote from: Andy Hoffer on February 24, 2018, 11:41:45 PM
How is the condition of the foam after 20 years in the box?

Andy

Nice. Not dry nor brittle.

I have some issues with the building sequence. A wing spar is supposed to be glued in on top of the servo wires, which would make changing a servo very difficult. I'll glue the spar in first, and the wires on top, and then covered by tape.
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on February 25, 2018, 01:56:03 PM
Quote from: piker on February 25, 2018, 10:34:38 AM
Gee Bee Model D?  I hope so as THAT is a beautiful plane!

It's called a Gee Bee Sportster, but it looks like that.

It comes with a ton of decals, but I may try to paint the whole thing.
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on February 25, 2018, 01:58:52 PM
Quote from: Ededge2002 on February 25, 2018, 12:54:35 PM
Looks like a nice and light hybrid design Michael!  Ive found the older models converted from round cells fly very well with the diet that modern equipment allows.

Good luck with your project!

Ed

I agree. The older kits do much better with newer power systems. A 2002 reviewer complained that it seemed under-powered with the recommended 480 brushed motor on 8 nicads. Mine will be powered by an E-Flite 6 series 2700 KV direct drive motor on 3 lipo cells.
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on February 26, 2018, 10:49:28 AM
More work on the wing (landing gear), and the hinges were simply thin styrofoam from the mold. That was definitely a weak point, and instead I am using CA hinges with white glue (one side at a time).

Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on February 27, 2018, 06:24:01 PM
A little mid-build indulgence.  ;D

Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Andy Hoffer on February 27, 2018, 09:30:47 PM
Quote from: Michael on February 27, 2018, 06:24:01 PM
A little mid-build indulgence.  ;D

Wow!  Your "workbench" is even more organic than Glenn's!!
(http://temac.ca/smf/index.php/topic,6460.msg42438.html#msg42438).   8)

What will you use the extra 14 channels for?!!!   ;D

Andy
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on March 03, 2018, 05:38:13 PM
Aileron wires and connected buried into wing.

Wires and channels covered with fiber tape for strength.

Fiber tape covered with masking tape to accept paint.

Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on March 03, 2018, 05:39:10 PM
Motor wrapped in masking tape and then epoxied in place.

Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on March 05, 2018, 05:57:12 PM
The whole model has been coated with matte medium (sort of like a white glue - dries clear - paint), and then hand-brushed with white acrylic.

A battery hatch was cut from the top, and the bottom opening was filled in with stryrofoam.

I've committed to hand-painting this model. I hope it comes out nice.

Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on March 05, 2018, 08:41:31 PM
Not too bad, so far.

Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: sihinch on March 05, 2018, 09:25:37 PM
Looks lovely. Is it a GWS kit?
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on March 06, 2018, 06:28:57 AM
It's a Graupner kit.

Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: octagon on March 06, 2018, 08:02:42 AM
Looks great. Will be looking forward to seeing it fly.
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on March 06, 2018, 08:49:24 PM
Wings masked, top and bottom, and first coat brushed on.
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on March 07, 2018, 08:50:51 AM
Look good!

Next, the wheel pants.

Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: bweaver on March 07, 2018, 09:33:21 AM
Brush painting results are looking great...
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: sihinch on March 07, 2018, 11:03:45 AM
I agree, looks lovely.

What's Mod Podge?
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on March 07, 2018, 11:21:35 AM
Matte medium.

A water based matte-finish clear coat. White when liquid, clear when dry.

Also available in satin and gloss finish.
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Andy Hoffer on March 07, 2018, 08:44:39 PM
Beautiful paint and design scheme Michael.  And great colour match to the cowling!.

BRAVO!

Andy
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on March 08, 2018, 07:34:14 PM
Wheel pants.

Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on March 08, 2018, 08:14:10 PM
A bit of detailing by hand.

Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Andy Hoffer on March 08, 2018, 08:43:57 PM
Great paint job Michael.  Now just a bit of make-up for the pilot - his face looks a bit pasty!!  Either that or send him down south for some sun tanning! 8)

Andy
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: octagon on March 08, 2018, 09:11:57 PM
Beautiful job Michael
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Michael on March 10, 2018, 07:05:20 PM
More painting and decals. Windshield glued on (glue not completely dried).

Weighs 500 grams without the battery.
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: Andy Hoffer on March 10, 2018, 07:25:01 PM
Yeah, Baby!!  Gorgeous!

Way to go!!!

Andy
Title: Re: A new old model
Post by: sihinch on March 11, 2018, 08:55:13 AM
Super nice! That's lovely.