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Toronto Electric Model Aviation Club (TEMAC) => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bigstik on October 12, 2013, 12:10:13 PM

Title: Strange Behaviour
Post by: Bigstik on October 12, 2013, 12:10:13 PM
Hi. I was flying my Icon A5 yesterday, off wet grass. No problem, but I noticed that every time I reduced power, the plane 'waddled", wagged it's tail like a duck. Anyone else flying the A5 noticed this? Any suggestions to stop the waddle?

Bigstik
Title: Re: Strange Behaviour
Post by: imran13 on October 12, 2013, 02:00:17 PM
Do you have the CG right?
Title: Re: Strange Behaviour
Post by: Tomahawk on October 12, 2013, 03:08:02 PM
Quote from: jabiggerstaff on October 12, 2013, 12:10:13 PM
Hi. I was flying my Icon A5 yesterday, off wet grass. No problem, but I noticed that every time I reduced power, the plane 'waddled", wagged it's tail like a duck. Anyone else flying the A5 noticed this? Any suggestions to stop the waddle?

Bigstik

It is normal for the Icon.  Some of the guys around here have added a gyro to stop it.

Chris
Title: Re: Strange Behaviour
Post by: imran1042 on October 12, 2013, 05:01:04 PM
When I increase power the tail wabbles. I believe its normal
Title: Re: Strange Behaviour
Post by: Bigstik on October 12, 2013, 05:39:33 PM
CG is okay, altho I may add an oz to get it more forward.

Any recommendation for a gyro Chris?

Bigstik
Title: Re: Strange Behaviour
Post by: dangaras on October 12, 2013, 05:58:07 PM
The walling is an indication that you are approaching the stall speed. The wings are probably of a  laminar flow design (NACA ???) where the root stalls before the tip. As you decrease speed each wing stalls and she noses forward imperceptibly picking up a little speed and the wing starts flying again. Then as you slow down the cycle repeats. Since each wing is slightly different they stall at slightly different speeds which looks like a waggle.
Title: Re: Strange Behaviour
Post by: imran13 on October 12, 2013, 06:09:38 PM
You could spektrum's AR635 AS3X gyro, or hobbyking's orange rx gyro if you're flying spektrum/JR DSMX/DSM2

Title: Re: Strange Behaviour
Post by: Tomahawk on October 13, 2013, 03:14:16 AM
Quote from: jabiggerstaff on October 12, 2013, 05:39:33 PM
CG is okay, altho I may add an oz to get it more forward.

Any recommendation for a gyro Chris?

Bigstik

Hi Alan,  I am not sure what gyro they are using.  I will ask the next time I see them at the field.
You really don't need it.  The Icon will land easily as it is.  The guys here were experimenting to see if the gyro would stop the wag.  My Twister EDF waggles the tail when landing if I really slow it down.  I just ignore it and land.
 
Chris
Title: Re: Strange Behaviour
Post by: Michael on October 13, 2013, 07:58:19 AM
My Icon waddles too.

I think it has something to do with the proximity of the pusher prop and the tail.

It's nothing serious.
Title: Re: Strange Behaviour
Post by: Bigstik on October 13, 2013, 01:25:05 PM
Hi Michael. Is there a cure for the 'waddles'?

Bigstik
Title: Re: Strange Behaviour
Post by: Michael on October 13, 2013, 04:03:24 PM
No.

It does fly smoother when there is no wind.