The good news is I have the kits and they are in excellent condition. The bad news is Canada Border Services opened the box and decided to charge Sales Tax. So you all owe me $5.00 more except Frank who overpaid. We'll distribute them at the class. That way Robert can guide you as to how to work with the kit.
For your first time you need to know how to free the parts, how to avoid damage, how to identify similar but different parts, which side is up and how to read plans. For these reasons we will hand out the kits at the first class. Robert will also cover basic tools, techniques, adhesives and safety.
Looking forward to being a part of this exciting build.
Jack.
Except Michael we'll give him his kit two weeks before the maiden as a handicap. That way he can maiden with the rest of us.
LOL
Jack.
O.K. I picked up my kit from Jack a bit early so I could look it over and know what to expect for our building sessions.
Other than having to learn Dutch, the plans are straight forward and kit is very complete with a lot of the work already done for us, so it'll be an excellent choice for our new builders. AND, it'll be a very nice plane to have for those calm evenings, and sunny afternoons. It's very cool! (I'll probably put mine on floats ;D )
Jack will be handling the first build class on the 27 as I will be tied up with the Morphine build session. But after that, you get ME as the teacher. And I throw chalk!
If you guys need any help with your Dutch just ask :).
Looking forward to the first build pics.
(http://www.modelflying.co.uk/sites/3/images/member_albums/33625/548542.jpg)
Ton
I have just translated the plans and will hand them to Jack tomorrow at the Skywriter build session.
You know the joke about the definition of HELL. Hell is the place where:
- the British are the cooks
- the Swedish are the comedians
- the Spaniards run the railroads
- the Germans run the police force
- the Belgians are the taxi chauffeurs
... and the language spoken is Dutch! ;D
Frank van Beurden
Thank you Ton, for your interest. We will surely post lots of pictures to you and Rob at RBCKits. It will be an interesting class made up of absolute first timers who have to learn to read plans and understand balsa to skilled builders who love the joy of building and want to pass it on to newcomers to the hobby.
This spring we started a class building Lindsey Todd's Skywriter which we will be completing over the Winter. We also have an in-house team pylon racing series and we are teaching racers to build an own design. So all told we have some 32 models being built either from scratch or short kits.
Jack Higgins.
Is that Ton, the designer of the Red Eagle?!
It's great to have you watching along, Ton!
I'm really looking forward to the build. It'll be fun building along with some new builders, and the Red Eagle will be a wonderful model to fly, I'm sure!
Hello Jack, Piker,
Great to see you guys have selected the RedEagle as one of the models for such a great project, or better to say 3 great projects. Rob told me so I did a search on the net and here I am, having a great time. I really do think its fantastic that you guys have started a project with the Linds Skywriter. Not the easiest model for a first model build but when ready a great looking model to see and fly. And then the Pylon racers woooo that should be fun building and doing a race. Have been flying pylon race models and its lots of fun doing that. How did you do that, motivating 32 modellers to start building models instead of going the ARF route. Its just how it should go with all the modeling clubs all over the world. Iam trying my best and have a build group at our club and we are with 5 modellers, but there are more modellers who made a start and 14 models of the RedEagle are in the making with 10 models now flying. I have started a competition with the RedEagle doing a 30 sec climb and max 10 min flight with target landing. Man that is just so much fun doing that and Iam sure there will be more RedEagle's to come.
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Thanks for selecting the RedEagle and enjoy the build.
Groetjes vanuit Holland, Ton
That sounds like a great challenge Ton! I think Jack will probably include it in our skills challenge!
And thanks for all the encouraging words. Great to have you here, on our forum!
Good Morning RedEagle Builders.
Next Monday, October 27 is our first meeting; It's at Col. Mustard's on Hwy 7. Get there between 5:30 and 6:30 for wings etc. We start at 7:00 downstairs in the party room. I won't be sending out reminders regarding subsequent meetings. They are in the calendar on the web site so look them up if you're not sure. I know its voting day so vote early and then do some fun stuff with a glider.
The first meeting will be an orientation meeting which I will discuss below. We are going to try something different with this build. We are going to have you build at the meetings. What you don't complete can be taken home for finishing. We tried this at the Skywriter Build last night and it was very well received.
Ton van Munsteren, the designer is following us on our web site so check his comments. This is so neat and shows that he is a designer who cares.
Orientation meeting.
Since we are building at the meetings you will need a portable board to work on. I suggest you buy a pine shelf at Home Depot, 48" x 12 or 14". A sheet of 1" pink foam to fit the shelf. You could use Gyproc in place of the foam.
You will need a carry bag or box with a handle for your tools and bits and pieces.
I will distribute some safety information regarding glues, paints, solvents and woods.
We will give you a list of basic tools you will need to get started.
You should have the board and tools ready for the second meeting.
I will do "reading plans 101" for anyone who is unfamiliar with model airplane plans, symbols and terminology.
This will be so much fun and a great way to use up a dreary Fall and Winter Monday.
Seems like a fun project. How much
are the kits?
Bigstik
Hi Al, because we bought a bulk order and shipped to a single address it came out at $105.00 per kit.
Jack.
Frank, did send you an RedEagle build manual and raad eens wat de taal is ;D
Quote from: Frank v B on October 19, 2014, 08:54:20 PM
... and the language spoken is Dutch! ;D
Frank van Beurden
Piker and Jack,
I have printed a copy of the Redeagle building instructions that Ton sent me. I will bring it along and translate.... if you are nice to me ;D .
It will be much easier to build the plane than to have you translate the Dutch instructions... Hah!!!
Frank
Will the plane look different if it's built in Dutch?
Yes, they use metric size wood and we use imperial!
It will have an accent.
LOL
Jack.
it will look like flying klompen (wooden shoe)
or the "flying dutchman"
Now for some serious stuff.
Next meeting Bring your build boards, tools and we will build the stabilizer, fin and rudder.
To save time remove them from the balsa sheets. sand all the nubs off them. The nubs are the small pieces left where they were attached.
Note the ribs on the sheet with the fuselage tail are the tip sections.
There are two ribs on the section with the fuselage front, they are end ribs and have a full trailing edge profile.
Jack.
Here are two pictures illustrating the comment regarding the webbing.
jack.
Good Morning Jack, thanks for your email of October 30th detailing the tools and materials needed, very helpful. I have a question regarding the building board. How should we attach the pink foam to the substrate board? I have a 1" piece of particle board 24" x 48" and a 2" piece of pink foam to attach to that. Do I glue it or tape around the edges?
Gerald
Hi Gerald, there are three answers!
Since it's 2" foam you can use it without the particle board. It's stiff enough on it's own.
You can glue it but just use a few blobs of glue in the corners so you can reverse the board down the road.
Taping the ends will also work, just overlap the tape so it sticks.
Jack.
Reminder. Building starts tomorrow at Col. Mustard's. 6:00pm for food and 7:00pm for the class.
Bring your Boards, Tools etc. We will be building the Fin, Rudder, Stabilizer and Elevator so you will need all the parts for these.
Jack.
I notice that the instructions ask for the leading edges of the stabilizer and fin to be rounded, but I don't see any instructions for beveling the hinged edges.
Did I miss something?
Are they left square with just a bit of space between them?
I believe the trailing edge of the stabilizer is straight and the leading edge of the elevator is rounded. The rudder is rounded at the leading edge and tapered at the trailing edge. the taper is not a lot, leave about 1/8" of thickness at the trailing edge and round that.
jack.
Awesome building group tonight! You should have seen all the activity!
Model airplane building is alive and well in TEMAC!
thanks again for the classes!! Grace had a great time and is already asking when we can get to our "homework" ;)
Thank you so much for organizing the class. I learn so much from all of you. Frank, Michael, Robert, Jack, Gerald. THANK YOU!
Another little quirk!
Have you noticed that the slot in the rudder is 1/16" and the horn is 1/8".
Having drilled both my horns I just cut the base down to 1/16".
Alternatively you could make new ones out of 1/16' ply.
Jack.
Another great class last night, although we were missing a couple of people.
Actually, it wasn't so much a class as a group build session. We worked away at our fuselages in an effort to complete them and start on the wings in the new year. Most of us can't go much further until we finalized the motor, spinner, and prop selection, so we know where and how to mount the motor.
I tested my motor when I got home last night to determine the size of the folding prop I want. I'm using the motor (and servos, 30A ESC, and Rx) from my retired Park Zone Spitfire. I figured it would be fun to recycle the gear and save some cash. But I threw out the beat-up plastic prop that came with the plane before taking note of the size. Anyway, I mounted the motor on a test fixture and mounted an APC 11x8 prop on the motor. With a 3 cell battery it pulled just over 30A, so I figure an 11x7 or 11x6 folder will do nicely.
Hey Jack,
So what are the plans, are there to be two meter glider competitions?
Glenn
I's love to see 6 to 10 gliders in the calm warm sky playing follow the leader!
... or maybe 6 to 10 gliders gently following each other around a 500 foot diameter circle.
Fun!
Or combat? Or racing the Piker class course? Or FPV glider racing? Or glider limbo? ;D
My Red Eagle will be an FPV platform. If we can get a bunch in the air together we should get some good air to air video :)
Well, I am not building a Red Eagle, But I will find a substitute.
Glenn
Quote from: electroflyer on January 27, 2015, 08:21:07 PM
Well, I am not building a Red Eagle, But I will find a substitute.
Glenn
What are you going to build??
The Build Class for Monday February 16 is cancelled as its Family Day.
Building Classes resume on March 2nd.
Jack.
OK, I am looking forward to meeting again on the 2nd of March.
As some of you know I have been somewhat tied to home for the past few months.
So recently to keep myself busy I finished my RedEagle.
I know I asked the experienced builders to stay with the students and not build ahead.
I can't follow my own instructions.
Anyway here is the finished model using a PT-19 theme for the colour inspiration.
I also needed to use up some scraps of covering, some of which is very old and the quality somewhat suspect.
jack.
Nice ! ;D
Jack,
re:"I can't follow my own instructions."
Stand in front of the mirror and give the guy you are looking at a lecture about following instructions, shrug your shoulders and walk away.
Frank
ps: nice and colourful RedEagle.
What does the lettering on the wing mean?
"RedEagle" is the name of the design.
TKU = Texting for Thank You.
TvM = Ton van Munsteren.
Jack.
Your red Eagle looks great, Jack! Nice work.
BTW, no word on the props and spinners yet, but I didn't expect them sooner than a couple of weeks anyway. Maybe we'll have then for next weeks Red Eagle build.
Look what I had delivered to my work today. Enough props and spinners for everyone!
I'll bring them to the class on Monday!
Quote from: Papa on February 22, 2015, 07:46:16 PM
"RedEagle" is the name of the design.
TKU = Texting for Thank You.
TvM = Ton van Munsteren.
Jack.
Hello Jack,
Wooooo thats great thanks the RedEagle is a beauty.
Cheers
Ton
Your welcome Ton,
I like to give credit when credit is due.
Right now we have had some 32 days where it has not gone over 0 degrees C.
Today was -11 with a wind chill of around -20.
We are so looking forward to getting out and flying.
Jack.