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Toronto Electric Model Aviation Club (TEMAC) => Building / Construction => Topic started by: battlestu on September 01, 2012, 11:46:42 PM

Title: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on September 01, 2012, 11:46:42 PM
As Simon would say it's time to get off the loo and stop looking at the instructions .... first step unroll the plans and get some wax paper
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: Gregor77 on September 02, 2012, 08:04:14 AM
Oh my.  More balsa building.  Lol.
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: bfeist on September 02, 2012, 08:35:31 AM
Right on, more touch-and-gos with Glenn and I.
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on September 04, 2012, 03:41:09 PM
Quote from: bfeist on September 02, 2012, 08:35:31 AM
Right on, more touch-and-gos with Glenn and I.

That is the game plan... maybe a set of floats as well :)

So i grouped up all the bits and pieces ... man that is a lot of balsa
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: bfeist on September 04, 2012, 03:43:59 PM
Quote from: battlestu on September 04, 2012, 03:41:09 PM
Quote from: bfeist on September 02, 2012, 08:35:31 AM
Right on, more touch-and-gos with Glenn and I.

That is the game plan... maybe a set of floats as well :)

So i grouped up all the bits and pieces ... man that is a lot of balsa

Looks like a plane already :)
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: piker on September 04, 2012, 05:01:52 PM
Greg,

I have a tool that makes this sort of building a real joy (not required but a nice to have).  When building trusses out of 1/4" balsa, as you'll be doing for the entire fuselage, it is important to get nice, square, end cuts on the sticks so you get a clean, solid, glue joint.  The tool I use is this:

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/3/StationaryTools/StationarySanders/PRD~0553551P/Mastercraft+1-in.+Belt%2BDisc+Sander.jsp?locale=en (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/3/StationaryTools/StationarySanders/PRD~0553551P/Mastercraft+1-in.+Belt%2BDisc+Sander.jsp?locale=en)

but if I was to buy a new one I'd get this:

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/3/StationaryTools/StationarySanders/PRD~0553559P/Mastercraft+4-in.+Belt%2BDisc+Sander.jsp?locale=en (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/3/StationaryTools/StationarySanders/PRD~0553559P/Mastercraft+4-in.+Belt%2BDisc+Sander.jsp?locale=en)

The disc sander on the side is the best for squaring off the end of the sticks, and allows fine adjustments of the angle until the fit is just right.  I would go for the second option now as the larger belt is more useful than the thin belt in my opinion.  I leave the belt off so the disk runs smooth and quiet.  You can get a DuraGrit disc from Jogn Dutkoski if you really want the ultimate in sanding pleasure.

If you use a tool like this, you will not want to cover the plane when you're done  ;D  I look forward to doing the same with my SE5a.

Robert
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on September 17, 2012, 09:32:38 AM
thanks Rob that is good advice... got half the fuse built the other night but i'm going to put this project on hold.

Got myself a new plane that needs some attention and all Pogo's should be afraid....

I'm Not Afraid. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzmpXz5d2z0#)

Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: Gregor77 on September 17, 2012, 10:00:37 AM
You got a Hobbyzone Cub?  :o
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on September 17, 2012, 10:10:41 AM
doh... now the secret is out
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: Gregor77 on September 17, 2012, 10:22:03 AM
Micro champ!
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: sts41 on September 23, 2012, 06:09:08 PM
I checked on Kijiji for a sander like Robert mentioned...There is all kinds of them for sale...All around $70 few as low as $50. They are all the bigger unit. May pick one up before I head home.


Steve
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on October 15, 2012, 10:48:59 AM
With all the crap-tacular weather we have been having i was able to get some building done on ye ole Cub
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: bfeist on October 15, 2012, 11:37:30 AM
Quote from: battlestu on October 15, 2012, 10:48:59 AM
With all the crap-tacular weather we have been having i was able to get some building done on ye ole Cub

Very nice Greg. I love the look of those leading edge formers on a cub. Very scale. Those pictures make me want to build something. How about I do the building and someone else does the covering? (I hate covering).

Ben
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on October 15, 2012, 11:43:28 AM
thanks Ben.....i heard Cadez can be bought for a six pack (or two) to do work on a plane ;)
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: piker on October 15, 2012, 12:26:12 PM
Nice work, greg!  You're flyin'!

BTW, what are those square holes in the riblets for?

Robert
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on October 15, 2012, 01:53:24 PM
Quote from: piker on October 15, 2012, 12:26:12 PM
Nice work, greg!  You're flyin'!

BTW, what are those square holes in the riblets for?

Robert

for the plywood joiner from the centre wing section. Only a few get used but i guess it was cheaper (for Sig) to stamp them all out
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: Papa on October 16, 2012, 05:46:45 PM
I use that bench sander whenever I cut balsa. As Robert says it is very flexible. It also wears away balsa in a the blink of an eye. You have been warned. My other tool of choice is my 9" Ryobi Band saw. This is more versatile and can be used to cut all sorts of formers. It cuts perfect notches in ribs for spars.

Jack.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ryobi-9-in-band-saw/930980 (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ryobi-9-in-band-saw/930980)
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: Gregor77 on October 16, 2012, 05:52:31 PM
I have that unit. Very handy.
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: piker on October 16, 2012, 10:10:47 PM
I have a similar band saw, but the Mastercraft one.

Alright, enough chit-chat.  I have to go and build   ;D

Robert
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: electroflyer on November 04, 2012, 05:45:01 PM
    Greg that is coming along great! 
    Just remember to put hard points for floats, as I'm sure you will want them.
   I found that the Eflite landing gear works best with a large piece of 1/8" ply on the bottom of the fuselage to spread the landing load as opposed to the two rails supplied in the kit. You may want to check that out.
  After looking at  your photo's, I saw that your box had a Sig label I had not seen before. That must have been an early kit.

   Glenn
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on November 04, 2012, 06:50:33 PM
Good timing Glenn .... I was just going to install the two landing gear rails

Maybe Cadez knows more about the kit.... It had a good layer of dust on it when I got it from him.

adding some shots of the fuse
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: gordonbw on November 05, 2012, 09:09:40 PM
Greg!  Cub looks amazing!!!
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on November 05, 2012, 09:35:18 PM
Your too kind... But thank you
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: Gregor77 on November 06, 2012, 09:05:48 AM
Looks like a complicated build.  I think in the future I am going to build on dry wall.  I am having issues with pushing on stuff and the foam is compressing.
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: gordonbw on November 08, 2012, 03:36:19 PM
Homosote board is the best -- holds pins well and doesn't shed gypsum dandruff the way drywall does!  Hard to find though.  I bought two sheets a couple of years ago at Danforth Lumber Co, 25 Dawes Road.   

What I'd really like is a sheet steel building board with magnetic fixtures!
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: piker on January 11, 2013, 10:48:36 AM
Bump!!!!    ;D
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: Michael on January 11, 2013, 11:46:47 AM
Robert has a Cub, Ben has a Cub, Glenn has a Cub, ...  so many Cubs.

... We need to have a Cub day.

... or maybe a civilian (non-military) plane day.  ;D
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on January 11, 2013, 11:53:16 AM
i'll have a Cub (sooner or later ;) )

...got back into building her; hinged all the control surfaces, joined the three parts of the wing, and started looking at a way to get the cabin door working.

I'll get a few pictures up on the forum over the weekend

Greg
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on February 11, 2013, 09:01:39 AM
she's starting to look like a cub :)

the bottom part of the door/window has been hinged. Also created latch to keep it in place. Still need figure out something for the top part (ideas welcome)
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: Gregor77 on February 11, 2013, 09:02:54 AM
Looking good!
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: Michael on February 11, 2013, 09:47:23 AM
Quote from: battlestu on February 11, 2013, 09:01:39 AM
she's starting to look like a cub :)

Still need figure out something for the top part (ideas welcome)

Figure something out to hinge the top part?


I used small plastic and pin hinges. See attached drawing.

Hopefully it will explain it better than my words can.

If you're still not sure, let me know.

Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: piker on February 11, 2013, 09:58:47 AM
Cool! 

Regarding your question.  It looks like you have the hardest part done.  You have stops to prevent the upper window from swinging in, and you have the latch for the lower section.  I'd just add a flange to the inside of the lower edge of the upper window that is captured by the lower door when latched in place.

Nice work!  Keep it up.
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on February 11, 2013, 04:16:01 PM
thanks for the advice guys!!

I'll stop in at Pinnacle later this week and see if they have any small pinned hinges
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: Michael on February 11, 2013, 04:57:01 PM
I used small flat hinges.
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: Bobmic on February 11, 2013, 06:11:35 PM
Really nice Greg - what are all the clamps for? - only for taking pictures?
How heavy you expect it will end up?
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: sihinch on February 11, 2013, 08:23:37 PM
I reckon it looks like a "Dukes of Hazard" style entry system!

Love the build, Greg.

S
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on February 11, 2013, 10:42:05 PM
Quote from: Bobmic on February 11, 2013, 06:11:35 PM
Really nice Greg - what are all the clamps for? - only for taking pictures?
How heavy you expect it will end up?

Yep the clamps for for the photos and I'm hoping to keep her light (2.5 - 3 lbs) range
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on February 11, 2013, 10:44:06 PM
Quote from: sihinch on February 11, 2013, 08:23:37 PM
I reckon it looks like a "Dukes of Hazard" style entry system!

Love the build, Greg.

S

Thanks Simon.... Hmmm might need to install a dukes of hazard horn in her (or my own car for fun)
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on January 08, 2015, 12:40:48 AM
Well all this building is contagious.... so it's about time i dust it off and get back to work.

So over the holidays got some work done. First i planked the top of the nose. Second sheeted the top of the wing. Third shaped the section where the wing and fuse meet.

Next step is to finish off the wing struts.

Greg
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: Papa on January 08, 2015, 09:42:45 AM
Looks great Greg, way to go!


Jack.
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: Michael on January 08, 2015, 09:53:44 AM
There's so much balsa building going on, that Robert must be crying tears of joy!  ;D
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: piker on January 08, 2015, 10:21:48 AM
I truly am   :'(

See?  This is what a model airplane club is all about!

It's nice to see the Cub back on the forum, Greg.  I have plans for some sweat EDO (true scale) floats, in the correct scale, for that plane  ;D   Floats can be built up in a couple of evenings.  I'll build a set for my Sky Writter, for your reference ...
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on January 08, 2015, 10:56:04 AM

thanks for the encouragement guys!


Rob i would love to look over those float plan

Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: sihinch on January 08, 2015, 11:29:05 AM
Another float plane?  :'(
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on January 08, 2015, 11:33:07 AM
I'll answer for Rob... You can never have enough float planes  ;)
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: piker on January 08, 2015, 01:45:04 PM
Got THAT right!
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: sihinch on January 08, 2015, 03:28:45 PM
I'm going to submit a motion to the Board to change the name of our club to TEMFPAC soon!
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on January 25, 2015, 09:59:57 PM
Got to work on covering and attaching some of the hardware.

Ran out of covering for the wing so I'll need to stop by Pinnacle this week.

Greg
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: sihinch on January 25, 2015, 10:33:27 PM
Looks great Greg! Nice work.
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: wollins on January 25, 2015, 11:11:39 PM
Quote from: battlestu on January 25, 2015, 09:59:57 PM
Got to work on covering and attaching some of the hardware.

Ran out of covering for the wing so I'll need to stop by Pinnacle this week.

Greg

Oh she's gonna be pretty! :)

Colin
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: battlestu on January 26, 2015, 09:34:33 AM
thanks guys can't wait to get it in the air :)... once i get past the maiden I'll dress her up to look like this
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: piker on January 26, 2015, 09:40:56 AM
That looks fantastic, Greg!  And I like the planned colour scheme.  So nice.
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: Michael on January 26, 2015, 10:19:30 AM
That's really nice!


In fact, it's way nicer than Robert's white and red Cub!


;D
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: Papa on January 26, 2015, 10:34:59 AM
Nice clean colour set up.


jack.
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: piker on January 26, 2015, 11:15:11 AM
Hey!  My Cub has seen some rough years   ;D
Title: Re: SIG Clip-Wing Cub
Post by: electroflyer on January 26, 2015, 11:18:32 PM
   Greg,

    Really nice build! ;)