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Toronto Electric Model Aviation Club (TEMAC) => General Discussion => Topic started by: salvix on May 08, 2009, 09:36:37 PM

Title: Which GWS Formosa?
Post by: salvix on May 08, 2009, 09:36:37 PM
At the field last Wednesday, Michael and Frank recommended me to get a foamie like the GWS Formosa to fly while I'm training on my balsa T-34.

I've found two GWS Formosa and I think the 35" is the one they were talking about: http://www.greathobbies.com/productinfo/?prod_id=GWS1095

The other one is 42.5" and is called Formosa II:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHXJ9

Will I be okay with the 35"? Will it handle some wind?

I still have to dig through other forums, but which brushless motor and ESC would you recommend with a 3S Lipo 1200 to 1500mAh? I'm planning to get the motor, ESC and batteries from HobbyCity, in case it matters. The receiver would be an AR6100e.

Thanks!
Sergio
Title: Which GWS Formosa?
Post by: Michael on May 08, 2009, 09:38:04 PM
The smaller Formosa.

I'm not familiar with Hobby City motors, so I'll let someone else answer that.

Michael
Title: Which GWS Formosa?
Post by: Papa on May 08, 2009, 10:44:14 PM
Here is a Hobby city motor that would not be strained in your formosa.
I would couple it to a 20 or 25A controller and I think it will be bullet proof.

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=2112&Product_Name=TR_28-30B_14A_1050Kv_Brushless_Outrunner

Jack.
Title: Which GWS Formosa?
Post by: terrabit on May 08, 2009, 11:31:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by salvix


Will I be okay with the 35"? Will it handle some wind?

I still have to dig through other forums, but which brushless motor and ESC would you recommend


I have the 35" one... heres a pic:
http://www.temac.ca/08-09-019.jpg

This plane handles the wind really well. The only thing I found that I had to get used to was that it is VERY responsive. You have to really pay attention to it, but really it was no problem for me to fly. In fact it was my 2nd plane.

I am using an E-flite park 450 with a Castle Creations Thunderbird 18A ESC and an APC 10x7 prop. A 3S 1600 Mah lasts a long time with this setup.

This setup is a bit pricey, but I did it before I found out about HobbyCity :)

Here's a good motor I think?
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=5690

EDIT - or the one in the post above :)



Title: Which GWS Formosa?
Post by: salvix on May 10, 2009, 02:31:51 AM
Thanks for the answers!

How are you mounting the motors? Are you using something like this http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=5135 or this http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7388 ?

I'll be using the motor recommended by Jack: http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=2112

Sergio
Title: Which GWS Formosa?
Post by: Papa on May 10, 2009, 10:01:55 AM
Good morning Sergio,

I would recommend using the mounting bracket supplied with the motor. It's sturdy and easy to mount and is nicely machined. You may have to epoxy a fire wall of 1/8th LitePly to mount the bracket. Be careful to include any offsets when mounting the motor.

Jack.
Title: Which GWS Formosa?
Post by: salvix on May 10, 2009, 12:11:21 PM
After googling what "liteply" was :), I'll get this one which seems to be a good match: http://www.greathobbies.com/productinfo/?prod_id=P12L186

Also, should I get those carbon fiber rods/tubes to strengthen the wings/body or is it overkill for this plane?

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6722

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6731

Thanks again :)
Title: Which GWS Formosa?
Post by: Papa on May 10, 2009, 02:55:07 PM
Hi Sergio,
I read the manual for this model and it has a fiber glass reinforcement that fits in a groove in the bottom of the wing. That should be all you will need.

Jack.
Title: Which GWS Formosa?
Post by: Papa on May 10, 2009, 02:59:05 PM
Hi Sergio,
You might consider building it without the undercarriage if you plan on flying from TEMAC. Talk with Clair and go with his advice.

Jack.
Title: Which GWS Formosa?
Post by: salvix on May 10, 2009, 03:21:30 PM
Great, so I should be good to go now. Regarding the landing gears: yeah, Michael and Frank also mentioned not to install them and just hand launch it. Besides, they look kind of ugly :)
Title: Which GWS Formosa?
Post by: terrabit on May 11, 2009, 12:28:55 AM
quote:
Originally posted by salvix

Great, so I should be good to go now.


Yes you will have a lot of trouble on the grass with that plane with landing gear. Its very easy to hand launch.

I am using a stick mount. There is already a channel in the foam "firewall" for the mount, so I just gorilla glued it in there.
Looks like this:

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=85691&d=1228440333

I will bring my formosa out this week, so you can take a look.

Planning on flying probably Monday and Tuesday if work doesnt get in the way.

See you there if you make it!