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Toronto Electric Model Aviation Club (TEMAC) => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bobmic on December 08, 2012, 04:11:19 PM

Title: Suggestions and opinions for the next plane are welcome.
Post by: Bobmic on December 08, 2012, 04:11:19 PM
Hey Guys,
So I was looking for a plane a while now but I could not nail it down to which one...:) The main requirements are: Steardy landing gear (retructs or fixed) which will easily handle our field, Flaps, can do slow passes and fast, and will have around 60-70inch wing span. Plane has to be design for electric - with a battery hatch.
Power should be from 6, 8 or 10s looking for, 2x3s 4500mAh, 2x4s ~3000mAh, or 2x5s 4000mAh-4500mAh, as for ESC I don't whant something to high on current, was thinking no higher than 80Amp.
This setup should be able to power a 60, 90 and hopefully 120 size motors so for 10lb / ~1700-2000W the performance should hopefully be good - I would like to have more power than just flying straight and level :)

The preferable option was something like the Deuces Wild which is a twin power 25 / power 32, about 10lb 62inch. Unfortunately this plane is not available anymore and I did not see anything else somewhat similar (the Piper Twin Comanche is not as nice but I might reconsider).
Option two will be something in the size of Roberts Zero - a war bird is possible but not German planes please.
I was looking at the Shoestring and the Twister by Seagull - links bellow:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/silence-twister-91-arf-SEA140?showRatingsReviews=true (http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/silence-twister-91-arf-SEA140?showRatingsReviews=true)
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/shoestring-75-91-arf-SEA143 (http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/shoestring-75-91-arf-SEA143)

Any suggestions / recommendations will be welcome

Thank you
Bobby ;)

Title: Re: Suggestions and opinions for the next plane are welcome.
Post by: sihinch on December 08, 2012, 06:07:19 PM
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/p-51d-blue-nose-60-arf-HAN2420 (http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/p-51d-blue-nose-60-arf-HAN2420)

My suggestion - and when you're tired of it, I'll buy it off you.  Please can you make sure that you do a good job of building it right, though!  ;D
Title: Re: Suggestions and opinions for the next plane are welcome.
Post by: Michael on December 08, 2012, 06:20:13 PM
Here you go.

Brand new; just announced today.

http://www.hangar-9.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=HAN5015 (http://www.hangar-9.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdId=HAN5015)

Flaps, sturdy landing gear, hatch for electric.

Nice plane!

(Don't use the wheel pants.)
Title: Re: Suggestions and opinions for the next plane are welcome.
Post by: Bobmic on December 08, 2012, 07:39:04 PM
This one looks like the pulse.
I need to think about the P51, will take a look for more details. The only reasone I hesitate is because it's a bit too common:).

Anyhow - Simon, if I end up buying it it will be using an Eflite motor and Hitec servos, the ESC will be from our friends across the ocean :)
Title: Re: Suggestions and opinions for the next plane are welcome.
Post by: thehaze on December 09, 2012, 12:40:31 PM
Too many p-51's.

How about the Mew Gull? Robert Pike had one. It was an awesome looking and flying plane.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/percival-mew-gull-120-arf-SEA3540 (http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/percival-mew-gull-120-arf-SEA3540)
Title: Re: Suggestions and opinions for the next plane are welcome.
Post by: Bobmic on December 09, 2012, 01:05:38 PM
mew Gull is definitely an option even with no flaps - how is this one compared to the Shoestring?

Robert - which motor and batteries did you use on this one?
Thx,
Bobby
Title: Re: Suggestions and opinions for the next plane are welcome.
Post by: Bobmic on December 10, 2012, 01:34:54 PM
i saw the Mew Gull at Great hobbies yesterday - Wow what a monster :) looks nice but not sure what's involved and how it flies.
I have an offer to buy the twister from someone that assembled it but did not put any electronics or motor for under $200 - the question that worries me is the wing loading which higher from other planes I checked (as you can see from the table bellow).
Does this mean trouble? Will this plane have to fly really fast otherwise it will fall of the sky :)?


Title: Re: Suggestions and opinions for the next plane are welcome.
Post by: Michael on December 10, 2012, 03:14:07 PM
OK Bobby-boy, I'll consider selling my Deuces Wild.

Call me.



Title: Re: Suggestions and opinions for the next plane are welcome.
Post by: Ededge2002 on December 10, 2012, 05:42:00 PM
As you specified you wanted a made for electric power plane it seems most of the choices are quite heavy and probibly designed for glow power.  A plane designed from the start to be high performance electric will be much lighter.   Just to throw some more numbers into your chart the Su29 from Sebart is:
60"wingspan   800sq" (5.56sq') and 6.25lbs (100oz) giving it a wing loading of just under 18oz/sq'  on about 1200Watts

http://www.extremeflightrc.com/ (http://www.extremeflightrc.com/)
http://www.3dhobbyshop.com/ (http://www.3dhobbyshop.com/)
http://www.sebart.it/ (http://www.sebart.it/)
http://www.precisionaerobatics.com/index.php (http://www.precisionaerobatics.com/index.php)

Remember light flys!
Title: Re: Suggestions and opinions for the next plane are welcome.
Post by: Bobmic on December 10, 2012, 06:39:43 PM
Thank you ED - these all seemed quite heavy even if they look nice...

Anyhow - Talked to Mike and I will be buying the Deuces so no one Bug him about that one PLEASE :)

Now if the weather will cooperate it will all be perfect :)
Title: Re: Suggestions and opinions for the next plane are welcome.
Post by: Bigstik on December 10, 2012, 07:45:33 PM
What? Did I hear right Michael? You're ready to part with your Deuces Wild?

Matlow
Title: Re: Suggestions and opinions for the next plane are welcome.
Post by: piker on December 10, 2012, 11:10:00 PM
Michael,

I offer you one dollar more than what Bobby's offering for the Deuces Wild!!!

(just kidding Bobby  ;D)

Robert