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Title: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: Gregor77 on August 26, 2013, 11:46:33 AM
Well a few of us got some blue noses... I got a quick question, can someone measure the EP mounts that the kit comes with? Mine is a used gasser and I didn't get the mounts.  I will make them from carbon rod and a bolt.  I just need the lenght.  ::)
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: electroflyer on August 28, 2013, 07:19:40 AM
    I'll check later today.

   Glenn
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: electroflyer on August 29, 2013, 07:08:58 AM
   Hi Greg,

  Are you referring to the the wooden box. If so, it is 3.875".
    Glenn
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: Gregor77 on August 29, 2013, 09:45:31 AM
Hi Glenn

No I need the alloy shafts that attach to the box and motor mount.  Greg H said that they are 1-3/4" long. They call it the EP attachment mount. It's 4 metal tubes.
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: Gregor77 on August 29, 2013, 09:47:33 AM
When is yours going to be ready?  I should be done by the weekend.  Just need to go to PIN and get a prop.  What power system are you using, I went with the power 60 500kv eq from HK.  90 AMP ESC with CC SBEC.  Need to get a Spektrum RX and full range RX.  Otherwise, some detail work and away we go!  ;D
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: Gregor77 on August 29, 2013, 11:44:48 AM
Glen, please download the Revised PDF of the destruction manual.  There was some issues with rates on this model.

Also:

re-glue the section between the firewall and the battery tray, there are instances of it letting go in mid air.
Watch the rates as indicated above
Put all the wieght in the nose.
C/G in the manual seems OK closer to the LE.
The 15X10 prop seems to be the best option as the power 60 with 6S and the 15X8E only pulls 866 watts WOT.  The bird will be around 9-11 lbs.  15X10E will be around 1100 watts.

So far that is all that I could find to watch out for... Oh yes.. don't forget to either run a sep battery pack or a SBEC and not usre the 60ESC from E-Flite as it can't handle the load of the seros / retracts and flaps.

I can't wait!  It looks so good...

Michael, do you have any comments for us?
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: electroflyer on August 29, 2013, 05:10:15 PM
    Greg,

   The tube length is 2 and 3/16." ;)
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: Gregor77 on August 29, 2013, 07:24:53 PM
Done. Great
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: Michael on August 30, 2013, 07:43:33 AM
Sorry Greg, I haven't been near my planes for days; I'm swamped at work.
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: Gregor77 on September 01, 2013, 09:33:07 AM
I am good for maiden. Model seems to be within cg requirements. Running a 6 4000 for the first run. Will be there around 1.
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: Gregor77 on September 01, 2013, 06:08:22 PM
Maiden completed. Nice plane. P51d blue nose for sale. Lol. Anyways only issue. Make sure that all servos screws are in place. Second hand units should be checked and not assumed. Left servo horn fell off as the plane touched down. Horse shoes up the rear for sure. Thanks for everyone's help.
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: battlestu on September 01, 2013, 09:51:16 PM
a few pictures from the maiden... she flew like a champ  ;D
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: thehaze on September 01, 2013, 10:27:48 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: Gregor77 on September 02, 2013, 05:39:39 AM
I relocated the esc under nose instead of the inside of the fuse. Added some pink foam inside where the battery stays. Otherwise very nice. Ready for bb day.
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: Michael on September 02, 2013, 08:12:27 AM
Beautiful; one of the nicest ARF's on the market.

Sorry I missed the maiden.
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: sihinch on September 02, 2013, 11:42:32 AM
Nice one Greg, I'm jealous.

S
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: Gregor77 on September 02, 2013, 04:07:24 PM
Don't be. Carmen put the hammer down. All planes in basement. Lol. Some didn't fit between the bathroom and the door to the basement. So they can stay.
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: Ededge2002 on September 02, 2013, 06:26:40 PM
Another of my greatest heroes succumbed to the demands of a woman.  Its a sad story but we have all been there.

Quote from: Gregor77 on September 02, 2013, 04:07:24 PM
Don't be. Carmen put the hammer down. All planes in basement. Lol. Some didn't fit between the bathroom and the door to the basement. So they can stay.
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: sihinch on September 02, 2013, 06:27:41 PM
My wife is encouraging me to build an aeroplane house in the garden!!!
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: imran13 on September 02, 2013, 06:38:18 PM
Hangar Si?
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: thehaze on September 02, 2013, 07:23:09 PM
I hate to break this to you Simon,  but that shed in the back yard isn't for planes... It's for you... 
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: imran13 on September 02, 2013, 08:02:04 PM
I'm so sorry Simon...
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: Papa on September 03, 2013, 07:57:31 AM
Over here it's called the Dog House, and it sounds like you're in it!

Welcome to the gang we're all in it most of the time.

Jack.
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: Ededge2002 on September 03, 2013, 08:38:19 AM
Simon if you build it they will come. I would like a top bunk. How much is rent again?
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: electroflyer on September 03, 2013, 08:45:02 AM
    Hi Greg,

  Sorry I missed the maiden too. That landing photo looks great! Did you test the airplane with any aerobatics, or was it just a straight trimming/test flight?

   Glenn
Title: Re: Hangar 9 Blue Nose Build
Post by: Gregor77 on September 03, 2013, 09:40:23 AM
Back to the plane and moving away from the "dog" house comments.. lol!   By the way I have a used mattress from College that you can use Simon! lol!

Glenn, the plane was a trim and test flight, but I did one roll and no loop.  The rates on low could have been bumped up a bit.  I did not try the high rates.  Elevator was fine at low rate.  For taxi I used the high rates and it seemed fine.  I had no issue with nosing over and the grass was longer than normal.  I used 3S (series to 6S), 4000 and a 5 min flight I got 3.89 per cell. I rammed the batteries all the way in the nose.

As for the CG, it was just infront of the spare, maybe 4 mm.  But be very careful the wood infront of the spar can't support your weight and it will crack.  It would be helpful due to the size of the plane to have someone hold it for you while checking.  Thus the pictures of Ronnie and I.

Otherwise it flew great!