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Title: FPV formation flying
Post by: Oscar on July 06, 2020, 11:38:40 PM
This is my first time doing FPV formation flying.  The experience is very rewarding.  @sihinch @Gil.E and myself flew the FPV together this evening. 

It doesnt need to fly fast.  The glider is a perfect FPV plane to fly.  Today, the wind is light and the sunset view is spectacular.  I look forward to do more formation FPV flying.

Video to follow (Simon, Gil - please upload to GoogleDrive or OneDrive and send me the link)


Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: Andy Hoffer on July 07, 2020, 12:28:43 AM
Wow!  This must have been fun for the spotters with three very similar planes flying in formation.  I guess the fins/rudders and bottom wing markings were distinctive enough to avoid confusion?

Looing forward to seeing the video(s).

Andy
Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: sihinch on July 07, 2020, 06:02:49 AM
Half the time it was us telling them who was who!  ;D
Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: Oscar on July 07, 2020, 08:33:22 AM
@Andy Hoffer, all the spotters know which glider is Simon.   ;D

The only one that fly a glider like a Warbirds / EDF Jet.
Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: sihinch on July 07, 2020, 09:05:47 AM
I'm in the process of sending the videos to Oscar, but here are some screen captures.  :D
Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: Andy Hoffer on July 07, 2020, 09:37:55 AM
Wonderful photos!  The light just before sunset is magnificent.   

I particularly like the composition and framing in "Oscar and Simon 2".  Way to go guys.

Andy
Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: Oscar on July 07, 2020, 01:57:21 PM
Instead of showing the boring FPV glider flight footage, let me use a different way to show you our flight.

Enjoy!!

https://youtu.be/t4tAt7V_Jas
Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: Andy Hoffer on July 07, 2020, 04:41:13 PM
Why does this feel like a Warwings flight with @bweaver ???  8)

Andy
Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: bweaver on July 07, 2020, 05:10:20 PM
Great video Oscar, you really caught the sense of the moments... :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: Oscar on July 07, 2020, 11:48:55 PM
Quote from: Andy Hoffer on July 07, 2020, 04:41:13 PM
Why does this feel like a Warwings flight with @bweaver ???  8)

Andy

Andy - You are right.  It does look like Warwing flight.   :P

Will this one better?

https://youtu.be/GPO3KrvCLX8
Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: Andy Hoffer on July 08, 2020, 04:10:26 AM
Beautiful Oscar!  I really like the flow of this new video.  Your taste in background music is always so thoughtful.  It captures the mood perfectly.

(Could you tell us the name, composer and musician for the sound track?)

Thanks for sharing your FPV flight.

Andy
Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: Oscar on July 08, 2020, 07:47:11 AM
Quote from: Andy
Could you tell us the name, composer and musician for the sound track?

Thanks for sharing your FPV flight.

Andy
/quote]

You are welcome. I am glad you like it.

I got this from...

https://www.youtube.com/user/esoundtraxmusic/featured?view_as=subscriber
Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: sihinch on July 08, 2020, 09:06:22 AM
Amazing video Oscar.  Thanks so much for editing and preparing it.

Flying with you and Gil on Monday is one of my TEMAC highlights - of all time.  :)
Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: Michael on July 08, 2020, 09:08:40 AM
Amazing flights and video!

Beautiful!
Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: Gil.E on July 08, 2020, 09:55:35 PM
Great Video Oscar!
Thank you for collecting and editing all the little moments from the 3 cameras into a single beautiful montage.

The Encyclopedia Britannica defines formation flying as: "Two or more aircraft traveling and maneuvering together in a disciplined, synchronized, predetermined manner". In that respect, not too bad for the first attempt, but clearly more practice and training is required before our DJI HD Squadron is ready for its first air show performance  ;)

After only a couple of evenings trying out the new HD FPV gear I am completely convinced the next logical progressive step is to have the camera mounted on a Pan & Tilt gimble linked to an head tracker.

There is almost no point in turning the entire aircraft at the direction of your fellow flyers just to get a brief fliting glimpse (unless you are flying an armed warbird and harbor less-than-friendly intents). It would be much more natural, and possibly disorienting, just to move your head/gaze towards your formation leader or wingman and let the camera view follow your head movements.

I have some ideas about how to do it, which I would like to try out in plastic (preferably red) before this summer is over  ::)

See you in the air.

 

     



Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: Oscar on July 09, 2020, 08:35:09 AM
Head Tracking - Remember your Goggles is also the Antenna tracker.  When the camera moves, so does the Antenna position.  I think start with PAN and see the result first.  :)
Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: sihinch on August 14, 2020, 03:57:20 PM
Here's some more FPV flying with the DJI system

https://youtu.be/wL5RpBjvUwI
Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: Oscar on September 21, 2020, 09:15:42 PM
Someone asked me before what am I seeing thru the Goggles.  (No it's not DisneyPlus or Netflex)

So I decided to take a photo.

My setup is equipped with GPS with return home function.  Apart from GPS coordinates which I found less important, the rest ...

Home direction, Distance from home, Plane battery remain, Altitude (height) - those are very important data for me.

I dont know how this is setup.  I bought it off from local hobby store.  They have it prepackage and it's not plane dependent.  That means, I can just remount this to any plane I want (The only thing I need to worry is the CG of the plane)
Title: Re: FPV formation flying
Post by: Andy Hoffer on September 21, 2020, 09:26:11 PM
Quote from: Oscar on September 21, 2020, 09:15:42 PM
Someone asked me before what am I seeing thru the Goggles.  (No it's not DisneyPlus or Netflex)

So I decided to take a photo.

My setup is equipped with GPS with return home function.  Apart from GPS coordinates which I found less important, the rest ...

Home direction, Distance from home, Plane battery remain, Altitude (height) - those are very important data for me.

I dont know how this is setup.  I bought it off from local hobby store.  They have it prepackage and it's not plane dependent.  That means, I can just remount this to any plane I want (The only thing I need to worry is the CG of the plane)

The scary part is where this FPV plane appears to be headed!!  ;D

Andy